Problem with the second one is that the turret was welded to the hull so yea…
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The turret is smaller, with about half the armor thickness everywhere, and a much smaller cannon. It was based on a D hull.
My reasoning for it being a light tank is the much worse armament it would have.
I had to look this up to make sure and unfortunately you’re right. So gaijin would have to use some… “creative liberty” to make it functional, a la Yak-141.
I’ve got my turret ring knocked out enough times in the Panther so that would barely feel any different to me lmao. I am sure Youtubers would love to make videos with a wacky tank like that. But Germany already has that Panzer IV J commander variant thing for a low-tier premium that has terrible turret traverse, so it’s not something Germany needs.
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The point is to have greater mobility in order to be plausibly classed as a light tank. But the inside of the turret was completely stripped, including the breech, to make space. It was just intended to cover up the turret ring hole.
Pz IV J and early Pz IIIs got their turret traverses buffed a while ago, they’re pretty decent now. Much better than before!
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It’s like Italy with them getting there first Heavy tank. It’s gonna be the first rank 3 light, but it’s gonna be a premium 😂
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That’d be pretty funny, but I hope not.
Think the better option for a premium is still the Daimler-Benz Panther though.
For one, it was actually functional and could have seen combat if the turret wasn’t delayed or its turret ring wasn’t slightly too narrow for the MAN turret that was ready for production.
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Perhaps because Ferdinand and Elephant are in the same tank with subtle changes on the interior and exterior.
The Panther with a Panzer IV H turret was a command tank, the gun wasn’t real.
Yeah I learned that later lol, check the later replies. Still could be made playable with some creative liberty.
Could chances be it won’t since the turret didn’t function at all? given it was a Bergepanther. The turret was just a field modification that gave it more storage space.
I’m not sure on how different the Bergepanther was to regular Panthers, but they had most of a Pz IV H to cannibalize for this modification. So its not impossible they could also transfer the turret drive mechanism over. Would actually take less effort to not strip the inside of the turret to just the outer shell, too.
It was an engineering tank so they did not have turret rings. Nor the capability to function with one.
No actual pictures of the interior but modeler kits are closer than anything.
Steal one off the Pz IV H.
Also what’s that big thing in the middle connected to the driveshaft?
Your asking the wrong person however as you can see in the image, you cannot make a Bergepanther function as a standard tank, they have different equipment for different purposes.
Not impossible. Pz IVs had a little 2 stroke 2 cyl 500cc motor for turret traverse. So the entire setup would be self contained provided there was enough free space inside (for a Panther, this is no problem).
So I’m not really seeing any conflicts aside from whatever that is in the hull connected to the driveshaft, and there’s not much a couple guys with a blowtorch can’t take off a tank anyway. So, plausible.
The Panther didn’t. That’s still not an excuse if it was savaged from a destroyed Panzer IV.
Seriously stop trying to justify something that you know nothing about. It also isn’t hard to figure out putting a smaller turret onto a hull that is nothing but a hull with 0 turret ring etc. Could use it even if they wanted to.
Did you miss the part where the Pz IV had one, and much like the turret could just be transferred over?
I’ve already said several times that:
-the real vehicle wasn’t functional
-with enough effort it could have been functional because all the parts needed were present
We already have vehicles that were entirely nonfunctional IRL, but work fine in-game such as Yak-141, or in completely ahistorical configurations like the M6A2E1.
This would be a unique addition that could fill a gap in a tree. That’s it.
Mate read for damn sake. Use your noggin 'cause holy shit. It’s almost as if you think you know how engineering tanks work because they use the same hull so surely it means they can still function as a normal tank.
So here’s the reality THEY CANNOT. Now if you’re done i have more meaningful tasks irl to do such as making breakfast and make myself a nice cup of chocolate santafereño.
I like the idea of a Panther A or G with the FG1250 NVD currently found on the Panther II. Something like 50 were produced and saw combat at the end of the war.
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Actually no. You just get a Tiger tank destroyer instead of a regular Tiger.
But it’s just as good, if not better.