Panther 2 hull was build. Why not in game? Because of Tree.
Just because of Tree. There is no reason to do it, gaijin still does it, and the explanation is just Tree.
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Naval and ground/air follow different rules of implementation.
Yes. We read this before, and its still stupid, makes no sense, and the only explanation for what gaijin is doing is Tree. Because they always just do things, and basicly giving us the “because i said so” treatment.
Gneisenau is a plane or tank? Since when?
Ships run the laid down [began manufacturing] rule, which is equally more strict than tanks and planes, while being less strict at the same time.
@Morvran
Kron didn’t set any precedent, the rules were in place since the beginning of naval.
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And the explanation for the Gneisenau getting fake turrets with 380mm is what?
Not enought vehicles cant be the reason because its not the case.
The vehicle was laid down with the intention of fitting 380s to it, and was compromised with 283s.
Either is as realistic as the other. Germany just chose to spend less money IRL.
The ship was also in dry dock getting the 380s fitted to it before it was bombed.
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Yes. For that they should get what they paid for.
Yes. It was bombed BEFORE it got them. So it is still just on paper but they still put it in even tho its not needed at all. If it was needed, ok. But its not. Why we get a fake vehicle then? Either Gaijin wants them or dont. I see it for Kronstadt but this thing just shoots against everything gajin put up to explain the removal of those vehicles.
And as you can take Planes into Naval, they are combined. So you can have fake vehicles that are allowed and fake vehicles that are not allowed in the same game/match.
You might change the title of your thread and the tags.
In 9 of 10 cases threads with these titles and tags will be closed with the note:
Please use a proper title describing the topic and proper tags…
I recommend “machinery of war”, “naval”…otherwise there is a high chance that the thread gets locked and closed.
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Gaijin has removed zero ships from War Thunder’s tech trees that weren’t bad reserve ships, and this is a very real ship which you admitted multiple times.
I did not. I said that those guns are fake on this ship mutliple times. Sure the Hull is real, but the guns on it arent. So if that is okay, other players should also get acces to Panther 2 for example because its the same thing Hull- Yes Turret- No.
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Same as them putting a 105 on the M1KVT. Those tanks are all A1s IRL.
This a bit different IMO, as it’s just an aesthetic thing.
It’s more like how market camouflages are sometimes inspired from a camo used on a different vehicle IRL, so get ‘Semi historical’ tag instead of fully ‘historical’. There are many examples of this.
There is a big difference, the 380mm guns on the gnisenhau or whatever were planned, the turret on the panther 2 that we have in game was never planned to be put on the actual panther 2 hull, the turret did exist, but the turret and hull were completely different programs that existed nearly 2 years apart from each other
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WHY YALL TALKING ABOUT THE GNISNAU its way more real than the russian boat she was put in dry dock for these modifications but war changed and hitler ordered her a blockade ship russia never recieved these guns they shouldnt get this boat
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Its still fake. Making it’s addition contrary to the reason other tanks were removed.
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I agree with you, I like it if they would keep things real and straight.
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Nah, I want to Bismarck my Kronstadt.
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