This a bit different IMO, as it’s just an aesthetic thing.
It’s more like how market camouflages are sometimes inspired from a camo used on a different vehicle IRL, so get ‘Semi historical’ tag instead of fully ‘historical’. There are many examples of this.
There is a big difference, the 380mm guns on the gnisenhau or whatever were planned, the turret on the panther 2 that we have in game was never planned to be put on the actual panther 2 hull, the turret did exist, but the turret and hull were completely different programs that existed nearly 2 years apart from each other
WHY YALL TALKING ABOUT THE GNISNAU its way more real than the russian boat she was put in dry dock for these modifications but war changed and hitler ordered her a blockade ship russia never recieved these guns they shouldnt get this boat
Its still fake. Making it’s addition contrary to the reason other tanks were removed.
I agree with you, I like it if they would keep things real and straight.
Nah, I want to Bismarck my Kronstadt.
I am not thrilled by the addition because everyone depicts it with these cannons, but it is inaccurate to the vessel, and the thing would have essentially had to be ripped up and put back together to accommodate them (was happening, did not progress far enough for the guns). Maybe if there was a tree one with correct guns, and a premium with this very questionable standard, I could go along with it, but as it stands it is quite upsetting that we’re seeing the same questionable depictions as virtually every other title that shows Gneisenau. The thing was shattered well and truly before the guns had a hope of being installed.
That’s why i didn’t mention the turret. We don’t need to talk about the L8,8cm in the Panther F turret. But the hull was still there. Put L7,5cm in the turret and this thing is good to go. Same with the Flakpanzer 341. Its a panther hull with Ostwind turret. There are things in this game that make even less sense and they build it out of wood. I would consider that a prototype. A very early one… fair… but my point stands. XD
And as i said. You can take fake planes that gaijin removed because of Tree into Naval matches but at the same time you can play Ships that never saw daylight. (In this case the turrets).
So you got good fake vehicles and bad fake vehicles allowed in the same place at the same time.
Gaijin is like Italy. Always switching teams and they will backstab you if you’re their ally.
Ps. Even the 105 turret of the Tiger 2 was said to come eventually. It’s still not in the game anymore. So the 380mm would also be complete bullshit if the Tiger 105 has the same issue.
Gaijin doesn’t care what you think - they are the arbiter, and they say you are wrong.
Get over it.
Yea basicly. They go the path of WOT and EA. Lets see how long this will continue till they broke the game so hard, everybodys leaving. As soon as there is a competitor that makes things better, a lot of people would switch. And if there was a new realistic Tank game i would definetly test it. Doing it better than Gaijin right now is not very hard.
As ace of spades said, it’s not a fake tank, it’s just simply a camo on a variant that didn’t get it. The M4A3 (105) is another example. Irl, the bumblebee camouflage was put on an M4A3 Firefly.
no it didnt exist
Technically the ship itself existed yes and so did the guns which they ordered before Germany decided to goob and invade.
lol To even match what War Thunder does they need a lot of capital.
There is not a single tank game that comes close to War Thunder’s realism. War Thunder is the most realistic game on the market because there is competition and Gaijin Entertainment stays AHEAD of the competition by improving.
History isn’t realism.
And these ships are not unrealistic, all their systems existed, and the ship existed.
Lying about no competition, lying about the ships’ existence, lying about War Thunder itself does not do anything to improve the game. It only makes others scoff at your posts.
Actually not so different rule as grounds and airs also follow non-finished prototypes(example, J6K1 and Yak-141).
Just they don’t need to use those things right now, while navy needs right now.
So it should get 283mm cannons just like Gneisenau
What part of “ships have different rules” do you not understand?
The bit he does not want to hear because it means he has no basis for his whining.
im not talking about the gun, the schmalturm turret was never going to be put on the panther two hull, the currently existing panther 2 has a panther G turret on it, but that was put on it by the US as they only found a hull. yes this panther 2 should be added to the game but it would functionally be a whole new tank and gaijin seems to have deprioritized ww2 vehicles for a while now so we’ll have to wait ig
it wasnt going to be an ostwind turret, it was going to be its own thing that a wooden mockup of was made and tbh I disagree with the removal of the flakpanzer 341
putting the 105 wouldve required a whole new turret design, when you say it wouldve come eventually youre refering to like one guy who wrote that they could put a 105mm gun on the tiger two, which is quite different to the gnisenau which was fully planned to have 380mm gun from the start, but they ended up not doing it, very different to the tiger 2 105 and the panther 2
no they arent, please tell me when gaijin adds a tank from a country that doesnt exist
oh yeah its so easy to accurately model nearly 2500 vehicles, why dont you try, im sure it wont take more than maybe a week of work.