So. We just lost those Japanese planes. Very sad, but we saw it coming (even tho it makes no sense, but thats just imo) and we lost those german vehicles a long time ago (and a few more). All of them where removed because they are fake, paper vehicles that never where build and never saw combat.
Well dear folks. Today Gaijin decided to put in the Gneisenau (wich existed) but instead of putting it in game like it was in real life with its 280mm, NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Of course they give it 380mm guns that it never recived.
So you change a vehicle to make it fake on purpose, but cool vehicles like the 7.0 lineup germany lost (wich it needs for things like Kugelblitz (7.0) or to just have fun with them IN A GAME!)
Make it right or just stop it. It hurts to see what you are doing to this game. It was so fun… now its… well it exists.
Naval follows different rules to air and ground due to the far more limited pool for vehicles to choose from. Kronstadt set this prescedent as it was only about 13% complete when canceled and they had to make up shells for it (which were busted)
The problem is just there is no reason the 380mm are needed. Its not like germany would’nt have any High/Top Tier ships if this thing wouldnt come in. And i understand Kronstadt, but this is just stupid. Either they want fake vehicles or they dont. Both is not possible. Especially when its no reason for putting the 380mm on it.
I guess they just wanted the TT and premium to be different in some way. Anyway, the 380mm is going to have a very low RoF so should actually be the weaker of the 2
And why dont they put those others as premiums? Like the Japanese planes or the german ones? Its not like they would be a great support for the lineups. Like 7.0. I mean then things like Tiger 2 105 are also just different in some way.
I dont know, but Air and Ground have different requirements usually (Looks at KH-38MT)
But we have many naval additions that were laid down but never finished, this is just another case
Panther 2 hull was build. Why not in game? Because of Tree.
Just because of Tree. There is no reason to do it, gaijin still does it, and the explanation is just Tree.
Naval and ground/air follow different rules of implementation.
Yes. We read this before, and its still stupid, makes no sense, and the only explanation for what gaijin is doing is Tree. Because they always just do things, and basicly giving us the “because i said so” treatment.
Gneisenau is a plane or tank? Since when?
Ships run the laid down [began manufacturing] rule, which is equally more strict than tanks and planes, while being less strict at the same time.
@Morvran
Kron didn’t set any precedent, the rules were in place since the beginning of naval.
And the explanation for the Gneisenau getting fake turrets with 380mm is what?
Not enought vehicles cant be the reason because its not the case.
The vehicle was laid down with the intention of fitting 380s to it, and was compromised with 283s.
Either is as realistic as the other. Germany just chose to spend less money IRL.
The ship was also in dry dock getting the 380s fitted to it before it was bombed.
Yes. For that they should get what they paid for.
Yes. It was bombed BEFORE it got them. So it is still just on paper but they still put it in even tho its not needed at all. If it was needed, ok. But its not. Why we get a fake vehicle then? Either Gaijin wants them or dont. I see it for Kronstadt but this thing just shoots against everything gajin put up to explain the removal of those vehicles.
And as you can take Planes into Naval, they are combined. So you can have fake vehicles that are allowed and fake vehicles that are not allowed in the same game/match.
You might change the title of your thread and the tags.
In 9 of 10 cases threads with these titles and tags will be closed with the note:
Please use a proper title describing the topic and proper tags…
I recommend “machinery of war”, “naval”…otherwise there is a high chance that the thread gets locked and closed.
Gaijin has removed zero ships from War Thunder’s tech trees that weren’t bad reserve ships, and this is a very real ship which you admitted multiple times.
I did not. I said that those guns are fake on this ship mutliple times. Sure the Hull is real, but the guns on it arent. So if that is okay, other players should also get acces to Panther 2 for example because its the same thing Hull- Yes Turret- No.
Same as them putting a 105 on the M1KVT. Those tanks are all A1s IRL.