i do understand the reason for such, thing but there is a reason the soviets are the only ones to have done it on ifvs. its simply not worth it, its a waste of ammo we’ve seen the kind of damage a single accurate 25mm or 30mm explosive shells will do plenty since the war started, having so much volume of fire is simply a waste of ammo(and before you bring it up, there is no such thing as suppressive fire with autocannons)
also this is unrelated, to my point.
thats the problem.
and if you were ever to come face to face with a bushmaster equipped vehicle you’de be dead before you know it. the bushmaster 2 is more accurate, more effective, and has access to better ammunition(including programmable shells), and as far as anti armor its not even close, the 2a42 doesnt even have a apfsds shell for it yet.
biggest soviet cope ive seen. the 2a42 is worse than the m242 what must you smoke to ever pick it over the 30mm variant lmao.
this is patently false, you know how much it takes to look up some footage fo a bradley firing on infantry? like 30 seconds and you’ll get a ton of example. its incredibly devastating. not to mention im pretty sure as far as explosive content the 2a42 and m242 are nigh identical(like 10/15 grams of difference)
ya just like a 30 mm its superior to a 25 mm ofc, but if you compare a shipunov 30 to a bushmaster 30 the difference its abysmal, the bushmaster its more reliable overall and more precise too even with the llower fire rate the spread stands at 0.5 mil at 1 km meanwhile the bushmaster 30 stands at 0.3 at 200 RPM while the 2A42 has an effective range of 2500 meters the Bushmaster 30 MKII has an effective range of 3000 thanks to the higher muzzle velocity and better shells
also dont cope too, the 2A42 its still a great autocannon and it has been shown to be pretty reliable and great overall but i’d take the effective range in real life scenario over the firerate, their system its pretty simple and gas operated autocannons are very good and widely used
No, it’s because the Soviet 30 fires a slower, heavier walled shell with A-IX-2 filler, so it has much better fragmentation.
The 25mm is designed like an anti aircraft mineshell, it’ll hurt where it hits but that’s all.
War Thunder can’t model this difference, but the total number of frags, and the frags performance is exceptional on the Soviet 30mm HE
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not in the case of the m242 to the 2a42.
comparing the 2a42 to the bushmaster 2 is somethign i did because ingame the 2a42 is better, comparing them in real life is stupid as the bushmaster 2 is much more advanced and has access to MUCH better ammunition, both for anti personnel and anti armor.
like i’ve said dont compare a 25 to a 30
its a good autocannon for the price, its better than the m242 in a few select situations. thats it.
verifiably untrue, like again we got a metric fuckload of footage of it shredding infantry.
its marginally better.
yeah i’d say that’s more accurate, good for its price but not an absolute crazy gun, its around average probably slightly worse
Yes; that is indeed the reason the the high fire rate, yet the low, and more accurate, mode exists. 30mm rounds are bigger, more capable, and faster.
That is straight up delusional bro.
in the modern day its completely outdated, for its time it was pretty good, but it never was amazing.
not outdated either, there is guns that operate under the same principle and yet are pretty reliable too and even better than the bushmasters
my brother in christ use your brain, suppressive fire with autocannons is absolute Stupid, you have a very limited amount of ammo, that ammo is MUCH more expensive than regular rifle rounds, and the effect on target is NO MORE than using a gpmg or lmg.
like dude this is the stupidest shit ive heard there is a reason nobody does it including the soviets.
no such thing.
for example taking apfsds in count MK 30/2 ABM uses the same system as the BMP2, gas operated gun and has an effective range of 3000 meters and has higher muzzle velocity and precision than the Bushmaster, and reliability it has been proved to be pretty good specially because of the open bolt design, rather funny during tests the rheinmetall mechanical and electrical operated wotan 30 had worse reliability than the gas operated MK 30/2 ABM
its not related to the 2a42, and a modern gas operated autocannon doesnt have the same restrictions one from the 80s would have
No, you wouldn’t, if a Bradly showed up on a battlefield, if we both noticed each other at the same time, and started shooting at the same time, the sheer volume of even just standard AP-T would shred the Bradly’s aluminum armor. Everyone inside would be dead by the time the Bradly even gets 4 shots off.
dont be biased towards one side or another just because you believe so, get consistant proof of that and then you can put it to the test