Naval PT boats

The “fix” for a game ruining mechanic isn’t “just stop playing BBs and play PT boats at BB BRs”. If you’re solution to PT boats at BB BR, is to stop playing BBs and instead play PT boats at BB BR, then you have no solution. I’m here to grind BBs, I’m gonna play BB’s. Same for everyone else at that BR playing BBs. We shouldn’t have to stop playing BB’s just to counter a dude who is at BB BR not playing BBs. No different than how ground players shouldnt have to first spawn SPAA to counter a first spawn heli or 3 minute in CAS spawn.

No other top tier game mode has a similar situation. You take a low tier into GRB, the modern tanks are just as fast and you have no advantage of getting to a point first. You take a low tier into ARB, you get killed by a missile. Naval is the only game where someone can bring a low tier into top tier, be completely untouchable by that BRs vehicles, and win the game before the top tier vehicles get to the points.

And just because YOU don’t care about something ruining the game for EVERYONE doesn’t mean others don’t.

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If highest tier ship is above 5.7 (or 1.0+ above Coastal’s max tier), make the point uncapturable by PT boats.

However, they could be utilized to decap a point.

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And put a big red warning on the hangar screen that says ‘Player bluewater is above allowable capture for Coastal.’

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He is not alone with this meaning!
It sucks sooo much to wait in queue with your slow af 7.7 Battleship lineup, and get these crap maps that have one cap close to PT boat spawn, just for the game finished in 4 minutes, while you barely have fired 3 salvos!
It is not fun and its not the slightest any engaging gameplay, for nobody. Even the bots hate it!

@Old_Ironsides
Solution: get rid of that one spawn point, disallow PT boats ( not a fan of this tbh, since they can sometimes have their use), don’t allow PT boats as first spawn ( like planes), or have some bots spawn PT boats too and circle around the cap so it at least is somehow contested!

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Case and point: two PT boats both already capped points and BBs haven’t even gotten out of spawn for the most part

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This is the most pretentious garbage I have ever read… If you’re happy making 3k rp a game by ruining everyone else’s experience, you’re the selfish one, not the people who want to spend more than 7 minutes in a match after waiting for 5.

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Exactly. I don’t understand why it’s so hard for this guy and the “community helper” to wrap their heads around the fact that sitting in a queue for minutes, just for the game to get cut short by 10+ minutes because someone chose to make a quick rp gain (a gain they could make just as easily at their BR) ISN’T GOOD GAMEPLAY.

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And for anyone who think’s that isn’t true, here you go:

Games without PT boat capture points (aka the giant circle):
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Games with PT boat capture points:
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Literally cuts the time almost in half.

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More of this nonsense?🥱

You can get a lot of things from playing coastal vessels alongside top tier buuewater - wins and ship kills with boat torpedoes for daily and spoecial tasks immediately spring to mind.

And countering it is trivial - bring your own coastal - I do, and I often field them later inthe game rather than 1st up to cap zones after the other guys have used theor own coastal.

It’s called using tactics, and achiving your own aims, not just those of some people who have different aims in playing.

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Spoken like someone who ruins naval matches for others or just doesn’t play them…

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Bollocks - “playing the game as intended” means each player decides how THEY want to play the game to achieve their own ends, which are not necessarily yours ffs!

Apparently some people find the idea of playing the game the way you want to offensive. Which sems pretty offensive to me! :p

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Since you haven’t read, no one has a problem with PT boats doing actual PT boat attacks. The problem is the people who first spawn PT boats, cap a point, and then J out. They literally ruin the game, it’s not “tactics”, it’s someone wanting to make a quick RP gain despite that RP being perfectly makeable at their BR.

Like these two who did nothing but cap the points, die, kill a PT boat, and end the game a whole 11 minutes faster than the maps without PT boat caps.

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And the “fix” again, isn’t to stop playing BBs. If you can’t play BB’s at BB BR, then there is a problem. No other game mode has this problem. You don’t have to stop playing jets because someone brought a prop, and you don’t have to stop playing MBTs because someone brought a M22. Naval is the only game where someone can bring a low tier vehicle to top tier, make the game end 10+ minutes faster while not doing anything else, ruin the game that the BB’s waited minutes for, and then be defended by people on the forum telling people to just play PT boats instead of BBs.

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No thats not how that works, if the way you play the game is an overall NET-NEGATIVE for the surrounding community playing. It should NOT be allowed. Its wasting everyones time, in queue and in game. I have two fully done tech tree in naval and I dont play it anymore for this reason, and the player counts are only going down in naval because of this nonsense. Its selfish and stupid. Doesnt benefit anyone, including the people doing it.

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Why is it ok for you to want to ruin my game then?

Apparently I’ve played enough to exist on statshark

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If you have to go out of your way to counter something because playing THAT BRs vehicles makes it impossible to stop someone NOT playing that BRs vehicles from ending the game, THEN THERE IS A PROBLEM.

Ignorant as well as arrogant

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“Arcade” 🤣

“No one is forcing you to do anything” and no one is forcing people to ruin top tier naval. Again, if the ONLY WAY to stop people for making top tier naval matches end 10+ minutes early is to NOT PLAY TOP TIER IN TOP TIER, then THERE IS A PROBLEM.

I never said that I disagreed.

No, now I just know to pay you no mind, you don’t have the aptitude to range and lead a shot, very cohesive with your inability to make a decent argument. My world is great, you should try it some time.

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