Naval mode is finally dead

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sure sure, as it was with SKR7 and M802 or slow reloading 8" vs 6".
Its exactly the same, just some boats that were unpayable or needed to know how to play now kick ass.

For you the answer is always that it is all due to bad game play.

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1151

What boats were unplayable?

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like you care, read above

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1153

Stop engaging with him, he’s basically trolling at this point

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1155

In coastal boat battles, the score gained from engaging a French corvette is just too poor. The score for sinking tough ships should be adjusted.

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1156

Welp, time to await the short lived bump in naval player counts, followed by rapid drop off due to the actual serious problems in naval, the lack of veteran naval players wanting to play, and more veteran naval players being turned off by the top tier issues with the Soyuz, Roma, et al.

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1157

I come and go when it comes to naval, I get the will to play it and get some top tier, then I see it’s actually BAD, I mean INSANELY BAD. Then I give up.

What they’ve done now is just beyond what nice words can express.

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1158

Yup, and while the forums are going to be exploding for now with posts about the new patch, it’s up to the naval community to ensure that this protest continues and keeps being active and posted in. Gotta keep it up, front and center.

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1159

Well, new update so I tried to play a few matches. For god’s sake, all I ask is for my rounds to go in the general direction of where I aim, and not where some brain-dead algorithm thinks I want to aim.

Naval is still deceased, is not getting better, and went from one of my favorite modes to a mode I will continue not to play.

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1160

Popping into the forum after a while, but can I get a brief rundown of the issues so far? I might not play Naval Arcade, but I like compiling a list of complaints people have with this mode altogether. I know that the previous major update made Arcade aiming pretty brain-dead.

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this, basically
its just not very fun like that, still playable but yknow

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1162

So now the fires are lasting longer?
I got shot once with the Asheville and got fire like for 25+ sec and my crew died.
At the same time the dude in the PT-811 got 4x75mm APHE, many 50cal API and also somehow died.

Realism works in mysterious ways with the snail

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1163

plugging holes also takes much, MUCH longer, so flooding is much more of a threat now

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1164

Did they made aiming like more inaccurate?
When I shoot in parallel shots land more forward, this is also very noticable when someone crosses the T.
Back guns will fire left and fw guns will fire to the right.

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1165

I also observed this, and additonally obstacles seem to make problems again

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1166

they screwed the coding so badly a heap of the long time players stopped playing it

there is a forum troll who had a lot more to do with it than she admits that basically gags anyone pointing out how stupid the change was and wanting a return to something playable

i am guessing at her just defending her poor ideas from her bosses and not caring if she destroys the game in the process

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1167

I think the aiming bug is back. Jesus Christ shells go everywhere just not where indicator is.

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1168

TBH, I’m not sure I noticed that it got better at any point at all 😂 BUT, I actually played a Naval match to see how much I still detest Arcade, and the aiming is still for sure borked. Using rudder borks it, enemies/Bots behind islands, all of it seems borked to me again/right now. Oh, and not sure if the speed up/slow down was ever a “bug”, but it seems more borked than normal with that too. Either changing speed yourself and/or when an enemy does it.

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1169

I don’t play Naval anymore (I don’t like the new automatic aiming system), but I remember from the update changelog:

Do you think this could be the cause? I know that 5-13% doesn’t sound like much, but it adds up, especially when you’re moving. If the accuracy is already pretty low (in some situations), even a 5-13% change can make a huge difference.

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1170

It’s not 5-13%

Naval weapon changes:

  • 127 mm/50 3rd Year Type (Ayanami, Hatsuharu, Hayanami, Kiyoshimo, Nenohi, Shimakaze, Yukikaze, Yūdachi, Yūgumo), 127 mm/40 Type 89 (Fusō, Haguro, Haruna, IJN Shokaku, Ise, Isuzu, Kirishima, Kongō, Matsu, Mikuma, Mogami, Myōkō, Suzuya, Tone, Yamato): max horizontal dispersion: 0.185° → 0.21°,
  • 127 mm/51 Mk. 7 (Mk. 13 mount) (Arizona (BB-39), Arkansas (BB-33), Colorado (BB-45), Texas (BB-35), Wyoming (BB-32)): max horizontal dispersion: 0.195° → 0.21°,
  • 127 mm/25 Mk. 11 (Mk. 19 Mod. 2 mount) (Arizona (BB-39), Colorado (BB-45), Lexington (CV-2)), 127 mm/38 Mk. 12 (Mk. 21/1 mount) (Aylwin (DD-355)), 127 mm/38 Mk. 12 (Mk. 22 mount) (Bagley (DD-386), Davis (DD-395), Moffett (DD-362), Phelps (DD-360), Porter (DD-356), Somers (DD-381)), 127 mm/38 Mk. 12 (Mk. 29 mount) (Atlanta (CL-51), Cleveland (CL-55), Fargo (CL-106), Helena (CL-50), Iowa (BB-61)), 127 mm/38 Mk. 12 (Mk. 30 Mod. 33-36 mounts) (Saratoga (CV-6)), 127 mm/38 Mk. 12 (Mk. 30 Mod. 85 mount) (Bagley (DD-386), Bennion (DD-662), Coolbaugh (DE-217), Cowell (DD-547), Fletcher (DD-445), Zerstörer 4 (D 178), Harukaze (DD-101), Yūgure (DD-184), Geniere (D 555)), 127 mm/38 Mk. 12 (Mk. 32 mount) (Alaska (CB-1), Baltimore (CA-68), Des Moines (CA-134), Nevada (BB-36), Newport News (CA-148), Pittsburgh (CA-72), Tennessee (BB-43)), 127 mm/38 Mk. 12 (Mk. 32 Mod. 2 mount) (Saratoga (CV-6)), 127 mm/38 Mk. 12 (Mk. 38 mount) (Allen M. Sumner (DD-692), Frank Knox (DD-742), Gearing (DD-710), Impetuoso (D 558)), 127 mm/25 Mk. 13 (Mk. 19 mount) (Brooklyn (CL-40), Mississippi (BB-41), New Orleans (CA-32), Northampton (CA-26), Pensacola (CA-24), Portland (CA-33)), 127 mm/54 Mk. 16 (Mk. 39 mount) (Murasame (DD-107)), 127 mm/54 Mk. 18 (Mk. 42 mount) (Forrestal (CV-59), Mitscher (DL-2), Wilkinson (DL-5)): max horizontal dispersion: 0.17° → 0.23°,
  • 133 mm/50 Q.F. Mk. I (Mk. II mount) (Dido (37), Vanguard (23)):
    • max horizontal dispersion: 0.12° → 0.16°,
    • max vertical dispersion: 0.29° → 0.26°,
  • 135 mm/45 OTO Mod. 38 (Attilio Regolo, Comandante Margottini (MA), Conte di Cavour, Duilio, Etna), 138 mm/55 mle. 1910 (Amiens, Arras, Bretagne, Courbet, Lorraine, Paris), 138 mm/40 mle. 1927 (Aigle (X 13), Milan (X 111), Vauquelin (X 53), Vautour (X 71)), 138 mm/50 mle. 1929 (Le Malin (X 82), Le Triomphant (X 83)), 138 mm/50 mle. 1934 Mod. 1938 (Mogador (X 61)), 140 mm/50 3rd Year Type (Amagi, Hyūga, Ise, Mutsu, Sendai, Tama, Yūbari):
    • max horizontal dispersion: 0.25° → 0.23°,
    • max vertical dispersion: 0.29° → 0.28°,
  • 152 mm/40 Armstrong Mod. 1899/16 (Aquila (AQ)), 152 mm/55 mle. 1930 (Émile Bertin, La Galissonnière, Richelieu), 152 mm/53 OTO Mod. 26 (Bartolomeo Colleoni), 152 mm/53 OTO Mod. 29 (Kerch, Eugenio di Savoia, Raimondo Montecuccoli), 152 mm/55 Ansaldo Mod. 34 (Luigi di Savoia Duca degli Abruzzi, Roma):
    • max horizontal dispersion: 0.23° → 0.26°,
    • max vertical dispersion: 0.31° → 0.33°,
  • 152 mm/57 B-38 (Chapayev, Kronshtadt, Mikhail Kutuzov, Sevastopol, Shcherbakov, Sovetsky Soyuz, Sverdlov, Zheleznyakov), 152 mm M81 (Flagstaff (PGH-1)):
    • max horizontal dispersion: 0.24° → 0.25°,
    • max vertical dispersion: 0.3° → 0.31°,
  • 152 mm/50 Q.F. Mk. N5 (Mk. 26 mount) (Tiger (C 20)): max vertical dispersion: 0.32° → 0.34°,
  • 180 mm/57 B-1-P (Kirov, Maxim Gorky, Voroshilov), 180 mm/60 B-1-K (Krasny Kavkaz):
    • max horizontal dispersion: 0.21° → 0.255°,
    • max vertical dispersion: 0.32° → 0.36°,
  • 190 mm/45 B.L. Mk. VI (C.P. Mk. V mount) (Hawkins (D 86)): max vertical dispersion: 0.32° → 0.36°,
  • 283 mm/45 S.K. (Nassau, Von der Tann, Westfalen): max vertical dispersion: 0.26° → 0.28°,
  • 283 mm/52 S.K. C/28 (Admiral Graf Spee), 283 mm/54 S.K. C/34 (Scharnhorst):
    • max horizontal dispersion: 0.24° → 0.31°,
    • max vertical dispersion: 0.32° → 0.33°,
  • 305 mm/45 41st Year Type (Ikoma, Kurama, Settsu), 305 mm/50 41st Year Type (Settsu), 305 mm/45 B.L. Mk. X (Dreadnought, Invincible (85)), 305 mm/50 B.L. Mk. XI (B. Mk. XI mount) (Colossus), 305 mm/50 Mk. 7 (Mk. 9 mount) (Arkansas (BB-33), Wyoming (BB-32)), 305 mm/50 Mk. 8 (3-Gun Turret mount) (Alaska (CB-1)), 305 mm/45 mle. 1906/10 (Courbet, Paris), 305 mm/50 S.K. (Derfflinger, Helgoland, Kaiser, Ostfriesland): max horizontal dispersion: 0.24° → 0.25°
  • 305 mm/55 B-50 (Kronshtadt), 305 mm/52 obr. 1907 g. (Imperatritsa Mariya, Marat, Parizhskaya Kommuna, Poltava): max horizontal dispersion: 0.2° → 0.27°,
  • 305 mm/46 Elswick Mod. 1909 (Dante Alighieri, Leonardo da Vinci), 305 mm/45 Mk. 5 (Mk. 7 mount) (North Dakota (BB-29)), 305 mm/46 Vickers 305/46 Mod. 09 (Andrea Doria): max horizontal dispersion: 0.25° → 0.31°,
  • 356 mm/45 41st Year Type (Fusō, Haruna, Hyūga, Ise, Kirishima, Kongō, Yamashiro), 356 mm/45 Mk. 8 (3-Gun Turret mount) (Arizona (BB-39)), 356 mm/45 Mk. 12 (Nevada (BB-36), Texas (BB-35)), 356 mm/52 obr. 1913 g. (Izmail):
    • max horizontal dispersion: 0.34° → 0.31°,
    • max vertical dispersion: 0.28° → 0.3°,
  • 356 mm/50 Mk. 11 (Mississippi (BB-41), Tennessee (BB-43)): max vertical dispersion: 0.3° → 0.285°
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