Naval mode is finally dead

[FuegoTigre]

I mean, I know some people will get a lil’ ruffled when I say this, and I mean no offense but like, at 7.0… you’re not doing anything. So this change has the LEAST impact. At that tier, a lot of players are essentially sitting still, or steaming away at 20kph. So I’m not surprised that 5.7+ players aren’t as outraged or upset as coastals. That gameplay is the LEAST impacted. (not all of you guys. Fella in that YT vid is also annoyed at the BB level).

But, All other gameplay is severely crippled.

[Rupert64]

@Bruce_R1

If Gaijin asked my advice I’d tell them to tweak RB to make it more palatable for the old AB players now. A big part of that would be tweaking down AI AA dispersion to rebalance in aircraft and make the radars more useful. If also fix some irregularities on which ships have air radar and which should but don’t. I’d add a second cruiser spawn point to the maps that can take one to increase spawn variability and reduce congestion. I’d increase the weather variability on higher BRs, where the chop is less of a problem, for atmospherics and a little added challenge. And last, an old favorite of mine, I’d let hydroplanes of all kinds be first-spawnable, if you wanted.

and to add some wishes:

• show near enemy vessels on the map
• identify enemy vessels depending from distance (none/ship-type/ship-class/ship-name)
• add torpedo reload zones near the spawn-points (maybe incl. a cool-down time)
• nerf ai anti-air
• hold distance correction if chosen manually

[RogueFlameHaze]

Holding distance correction would make me swap right over to RB, currently I get sick of scrolling to recorrect over and over… feels like my mousewheel is going to wear out before a line is fully ground out!

[Dalless]

@FuegoTigre

People playing WoWS are happy playing WoWS, and probably personally invested in the $100’s if not $1000s of dollars. Why would they switch? Even if Gaijin pulls of a 1:1 match on mechanics. IDK. It’s an optimistic play to mimic them.

Agree.

@FuegoTigre

If you’ve met market share, you’ve met market share. [shrugs] What Gaijin REALLY needs to do is… stop dropping matches by BR. It’s fragmenting the community. The more BR we have, the less people can drop in what they want because they’re all stretched out across 13+BRs. We need to move match making into a more Enduring Conflict model where ALL BRs are welcomed, and it’s all about how much does it cost to deploy. Give greater rewards to players for making older/lower BR units WORK in a specific mission, and specific roles. Add AI and objectives to huge maps. People would drop immediately into active zones, place on the map at objectives that makes sense for their BR/Tech level, but still part of a larger dynamic battle.

Good idea. I like it.

@FuegoTigre

shrugs] Let’s put agency back in aiming. If that looks “different” than it had, cool. Me, To Gaijn: “Hey Team. Cool. I see what you’re doing. You simplified it. Now… make it INTERESTING.” Right now, it’s STILL a mess. For new players, all they’re going to understand is that you HAVE to target a ship to hit it. If you’re going to do that… make that mechanic work wherever you point the cursor. Don’t have TWO DIFFERENT Aiming Mechanics for Targeted and UnTargeted states. Make it so if you’re pointing at the water in front of you, you’re hitting it. If you’re pointing at the ship, you’re hitting it. Right now, if you lose lock, your gunners are losing their mind and shots are flying WILD. As if the deck crew has COMPLETELY forgotten where they are aiming. It’s not just annoying, its immersion breaking.

I think if they made it it so the lead required was less in the old system it would work. The old system, you had to some times lead so far ahead ( if you were sailing full speed) that you don’t see the ship in the binoculars. That probably turned off a lot of people.

Next have the ability to aim your big guns at different targets. The fronts are shooting at one thing and the rears at another. many times in order to maintain angling, your rear guns can’t point at the target. Let them shoot at something else. This would male ships way more involved and different than any game play. I think it would catch on with some. Right now you can target big guns at one thing and secondaries at another. Would not be hard to do.

@FuegoTigre

And if I’m right the June update will also see additional simplification of the AB ruleset.

MIsguided, scary and wrong way to go. Make it more interesting and you will get more people playing. Speed up the action a bit.

@FuegoTigre

That was the appeal of NAB. You can get in there, mix it up, get some RP, move on to another match.

That’s why I play NAB.

[Dalless]

Yes it was.

[Dalless]

They should be doing a rock, paper, scissors style of play.

[CapitanVento-psn]

In enduring confrontation It’s pretty common to see these numbers

[Kweedko]

how much did you get RP for that?

[CapitanVento-psn]

Sorry, can’t remember for rp, but sl was near a million

[Kweedko]

ugh, who cares about SL

[CapitanVento-psn]

I’ve found the screenshot…

[Kweedko]

Meh, not worth the time play EC with this rewards and smeiarcade rules, i whish it was full arcade rules i think that holding NAB EC popularity.

ps. it was NRP community who asked this semirules years ago.

and i got proporsal for chaining it Флот, привести Аркадное морское противостояние к Аркадным же правилам - Корзина - War Thunder — официальный форум but it didn’t get enough votes to be passed to developers. Sad.

[CapitanVento-psn]

After NAB aiming change, EC play is full arcade aiming mode (during arcade days of course)

[Kweedko]

Nope speed not the same, markers too and all other mechanics are from RB.

[CapitanVento-psn]

i did not get what your’re saying, for me is the same as current arcade mode

[Kweedko]

Speed of ships in NAB EC is from RB and other mechanics too.

ps. i got 3 proposals pending here, if they didn’t change it in coming patch i will make another one for NAB EC to become full arcade rules.

[FuegoTigre]

Kweedko just comes in here, makes a bunch of noise, negates everything you say, and is a general nuisance. Don’t let him get you twisted.

The fact that the aiming is new aimbot arcade style means that 90% of the gameplay is current Arcade style.

[Kweedko]

@FuegoTigre

The fact that the aiming is new aimbot arcade style means that 90% of the gameplay is current Arcade style.

Why you don’t switch to NRB if 90% of gameplay is aiming?

[tim_myth]

@Kweedko

ps. i got 3 proposals pending here, if they didn’t change it in coming patch i will make another one for NAB EC to become full arcade rules.

You should make a proposal that bot ships in Air Arcade get the same aiming system as the bot ships in Naval Arcade. And I don’t mean the AI ships with names like “Timofey”. I mean the bots in the back that are generically named “destroyer” or “cargo ship”. Gaijin introduced the aiming to make it friendlier for new players. I think it should be friendly for new Air Arcade players too. Imagine the enjoyment new players will get when their planes are destroyed seconds after spawning by “Destroyer”! Its a shame to only allow Naval Arcade to get such noob friendliness.

[Kweedko]

@tim_myth

You should make a proposal that bot ships in Air Arcade get the same aiming system as the bot ships in Naval Arcade. And I don’t mean the AI ships with names like “Timofey”. I mean the bots in the back that are generically named “destroyer” or “cargo ship”. Gaijin introduced the aiming to make it friendlier for new players. I think it should be friendly for new Air Arcade players too. Imagine the enjoyment new players will get when their planes are destroyed seconds after spawning by “Destroyer”! Its a shame to only allow Naval Arcade to get such noob friendliness.

I got report about that, it’s a bug.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/MZEl4Vg1GL25