So let me get this straight. I’m not hating you or your community I’m only showing you flaws in your conclusions and suggest alternatives.
And yet you are the one who clamed others “PVE lovers” in the first place, just cause they found EC changes suitable and interesting.
Do you really think that those who love WT naval, want games been filled with bots if there were enough live players and naval mode to been underdeveloped and underfinanced for years with tons of bugs and barely worked mechanics? Do you even understand problems of Naval modes, or all is you interested in is just NRB EC?
This is not his or our community. This is THE english speaking (at least) war thunder community. And by calling this whole thing a “little club” it sure sounds like you do. But maybe that was lost in translation or whatever. I appreciate that you clarified this
Whatever group of people you meant with that, its not necessary to make it sound like you think every other opinion is wrong and worthless and only you can be the person thats correct and has the best and only ideas to improve things. Lots of the stuff you and others posted are quite good ideas to start from, we are here to discuss what could work the best, which ideas could be combined, which idea could maybe work even better if it was changed a little, what maybe doesnt work the way it is intended and can have backlash that maybe the person didnt think off first and which ideas are good but probably too complicated to implement
Because there being opinions you maybe dont like because you see this whole thing from a different standpoint doesnt make them less valuable. I for myself am interested in your and other arcade players point of view, since i cannot know how it was in the last couple of days to play arcade. Because i dont play it.
But anyways i think thats semantics at this point, can we go back to discussing things?
IMO, increase rewards, make battles count on your profile performance record, and let us grind event and BP score in EC first. Without those changes, it’s still going to be inferior to random battles to most players. If the rewards are currently identical to random battles, then the seeming lack of them probably comes from the extreme amount of downtime in EC, which can be compensated for.
Also, I’d greatly prefer if they added rotating BR brackets like in air sim EC. They already got rid of the worst battleship class dominance issues by eliminating SP, so they should also add rotating brackets to take care of the rest of these situations.
I agree that rewards are less than normal battles and that they should be increased.
There are many way to increase them like adding +50% during the whole match.
When the last interesting game mode is taken away from you to cater to the farmers, will you look for a solution that could suite everyone?
If Gaijin asked the community’s opinion had been sought alongside the announcement of changes—and genuinely heeded—compromises could have been found. As it stands, however, I personally face a choice between continuing to play War Thunder’s naval mode or quitting it entirely; consequently, I have no intention of compromising with the segment of the community that never engaged with this mode and for whom it holds little importance. Most of the measures proposed by Bombe18 and me are straightforward and effective, without relying on the external factors your own list of suggestions depends on.
I read something about being scared of PVP earlier and i gotta say i dont think its much about being scared of PVP but rather the issue that when theres a lot of actual players in a Naval match the general rewards just go down the drain because the majority of people just love busting out their 80s Dance Moves when they start getting shot which is just such a huge pain in the back to keep fighting against. In Random Battles rarely do i see anyone have a good match when the lobby is chock full with players (at least in the Battleship BR region).
well. if loser gets noting. and they have to pay for repairs. trust me players gona get first targeted. so its gona bi fight for eliminate enemy players.
I mean idk bro i shoot other players just as much to me personally i dont care if ure a bot or a player the only thing that counts to me is what ship youre playing. If youre playing an Iowa or a Soyuz then i dont bother with you otherwise youre just a target for me as everything else other than British Ships. Also im not a really a farmer i just dont enjoy the current state of the mode because Map Rotation was essentially thrown out the window at top tier. Its become so bad that i even started fishing for downtiers with the Poltava simply so i can play maps that arent the Circles of Doom. (For your Information i have 5 of the 7 Naval Bluewater Trees Finished so idk if thats something a regular “farmer” would do)
So, NRB players have already encountered full squads of stationary Chinese farming bots. That is precisely why I have such a negative view of farming for the sake of farming; it inevitably leads to PvE gameplay and the tedious act of camping behind rocks. Just think about it: many NRB players no longer even remember the days when teams were full and battles were packed with action. For five years, it has been nothing but gloom, grinding, and bot farming. And only in EC situation was different.
