Forget the ground the German air have vehicles from ussr tree with avionics and missiles they never had .
191mm hull. 115 - 400+mm turret.
Never once thought about ground rubble in my countless hours playing these tanks:
@mm10000
Turret cheeks are not the weak spot you think they are.
Commander’s cupola is universal with Tiger 2’s.
Tiger 2P’s weakspot: Entire turret.
Tiger 2H’s weakspot when using IS-2: Entire turret.
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Bro do thing i don’t know the IS-2?
Aside the 5 Weakspots and bad a Gun perfonmance, it still faces the recoiless Guns
I’ll give another Example
The Kv-1 zis 5 at 4.7
Faces the German Kv-1 With 152MM OF PEN AT 5.0 With REMOVED TURRET CORNER WEAK SPOT
Why can’t we use the Bt-7M without it’s tracks??
Were the Stabalized Sight along with the later Gun Stabalizer?
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The gun’s one of the best at 6.7.
German KV-1 is 5.0, not 4.7.
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When did i say it’s 4.7
The most op missile was 9m with cheat smokeless. 100 meters of multi path makes close ir missiles meta where overperformed 16,15,gripen dominate with invisible 9m.
and the better armor is unrealistic too for the higher tier mbts
Sim yes. RB no. I suppose you know why. IRCCM works great on either of those so there remains range (which was fulfilled by the R-27ET/ER) and maneuverability. R-73 works great. 9M has more range but with a big diamond is not really invisible
Nah, Su-27 has been bad since it came out and it’s going to stay bad until they fix the FM.
Yeah… same with Su-27. Combine the two issues and the Su-27 becomes bad relative to the opponents.
It isn’t. It’s terrible at its BR.
Speaking like they didn’t have 8 missiles (tied with 2nd best with M2K now)
You keep pointing out this 17G tolerance and I’m going to have to start thinking you have no idea what you’re talking about. It’s one stat of a missile and it does NOT solely determine agility.
AV8B is maybe slightly undertiered but not heavily, and you’re referring to a gimmick, not a real strategy…
Su-27 has never been meta. It has always played second fiddle.
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Tiger 2 is a NATO tank?
Lol. Lmfao.
How bout type 59 at 8.0 low turn rate slow bad gun handling has same pen as all others but is super bad
Now don’t complain about armour it sits at br 8 so unless it has composite or reactive you can consider it has no armour.
Plus compact crew so dies at one shot .
How do the nato tanks compare ??
??? It has a stabilizer you spud. The armor is also good for the BR and this DOES matter since it for example does not die to autocannons easily and conventional ammo in downtiers often bounce…
It has a basic stabilizer not an 3 plane one and has terrible turret rotation…it can’t properly engage . Plus that br range is full of heat it’s an easy kill. It can’t engage at close or at long …worst tank
All other nato tanks except some heavys at 7.3 can kill it easily…8.0 ones are faster better gun handling same pen plus fast turret rotation.
Doesn’t matter. HIGHLY impactful and HIGHLY useful tool that works up to ~22-24kph which makes the Type59 worth 8.0. It can engage just fine. Type 59 also easily knocks out any tank it meets in matchmaking regarding the gun.
This is a classic case of blaming the tank for your own flaws.
China is one of my most played nations, and I find the type 59 to be very good against tanks at 8.0 and below. Unlike most tanks it faces, it has a stabilized gun and good armour against regular projectiles. Only APFSDS and HEAT will reliably go through. The gun is also very potent and regularly one-shots leopards, centurions and M60s.
Lmao. It was pretty good in the Air superiority update. Felt more consistent than the F-15. Didn’t play the Gripen
It wasn’t meta at any point. If you liked it that’s fine, but it’s always objectively been worse than the american jets.