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Pakistan & Bangladesh Ground forces subtree
Pakistan & Bangladesh Ground forces subtree


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History and Introduction
There have been hard times between our nations, but at our core, we are brothers in more ways than most. This relationship runs deep and has steadily begun to heal. As such, this suggestion is made by both a Pakistani and a Bangladeshi who both love their nation and view the other as brothers.
The Sub tree
The vehicles below with real images are those included in this sub tree suggestion.
A deeper look into the vehicles
T-80UD/BE-1
T-84 Oplot-P

Al Zarrar (2020)

Type-59G(B)

Al Zarrar Phase III




Al Zarrar PT1

Viper IFV

SPADA 2000+

Mouz

Conclusion
China is one of those nations that have so much potential, and the space in their tech tree to have it implemented. This is why utilising the 5th line in the tree for the subtree branch is so appealing. It provides the tree with not just more vehicles, but more diversity in playstyles as well as bolstering lineups with very competitive vehicles. Gaps in lineups can also be filled with Pakistani SPAA, Bangladeshi MBTs and the special Viper IFV, and even a deadly premium autoloading SPH. top top it all off, we have the very desired Oplot-P. I hope this would make it a sub tree worth taking time to research and experience!
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History and Introduction
The Roland air defense missile system was developed in co-operation between Germany and France, specifically, Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm (MBB) and Aérospatiale producing the weapon system and EuroMissile producing the Roland 1, 2 and 3 series of missiles.
The story of the Roland in the German air defense duty starts with the FlaRakPz Roland 2. Unlike their French counterparts, the germans chose to delay the induction of the roland until the Roland 2 had been developed. The main difference between the Roland 1 and Roland 2 (systems) is that the Roland 1 was a purely Day time and clear weather system, operating fully on a passive InfraRed tracking sight assisted by a search radar.



As can be seen, it does not have a tracking radar
The later prototype for the Roland 1 did not fare much better in their eyes either.

The Germans did not consider this satisfactory and thus the Roland 2 was developed with a dedicated Tracking radar in tandem with the IR sight. Initially, the system was only mounted on the Marder chassis in active service.

But this was only for the bundeswehr. The Luftwaffe also needed an air defense system to protect their airfields, for this reason, the same Roland 2 system was mounted on a MAN CAT 1 8x8 truck chassis. While this was a much lighter vehicle by mass as compard to the Marder variant, it was by no means light enough to be air transportable. Thus, a lighter 6x6 chassis was outfitted with the SARO (Roland self contained system). It was named the Roland Luftverlastbar (LVB) used to allow the entire vehicle to be airlifted to far away combat areas.

Named the Roland LVB, the French also created their own version of the LVB.
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That brings the total number of Roland variants that were in service for the German military to 3:
- FlaRakPz Roland 2
- FlaRakRad Roland 2
- FlaRakRad Roland 2 LVB
But theres more… In came the NDV program. In the 1990s, the air threat situation was changing. The rolands were estimated to be retired soon, around 2002-2003 unless changes were made.
So, in the year 2000, Germany awarded a contract to LFK GmbH to upgrade the Roland weapon systems to the NDV standard. In english, basically SLE (service life extension). If accepted into service, the Rolands would remain operational upto 2015.
According to the Military History Museum of the German Armed Forces, the 1 FlaRakPz 1A1 Roland 2 and 2 FlaRakRad 1 Roland 2 vehicles participated in the upgrade. They were designated FlaRakPz 1A2(v?) Roland 2 and FlaRakRad 2 Roland 2 respectively. The FlaRakPz 1A2 was the most clearly documented, but the upgrades were similar across both vehicles.
They were given upgraded systems including new digital computers with Mil-Bus connections, an integrated self test system, improvements to missile guidance such as adapted guidance laws for the ROLAND 2 and ROLAND 3 missiles, wireless connection to HFlaAFüSys, multifunction displays and adjustments to peripheral devices, probably including a new “Glaive” IR sight.
Troop trials commenced with the vehicles being tested for their utility up to the year 2003. However, it was decided to retire the Rolands that very same year. The LeFlaSys Ozelot in tandem with its AFF Wiesel 2 radar carrier were the interim successors of the SHORAD complex until the IRIS-T SLS system is adopted into service (which, ironically, has been beated into service by the SLM).
Unlike other nations, Germany chose to not spend large amounts of capital in acquiring more upgrades but instead opted for the NDV program (as explained above) which they also dropped out of later. However, just a bit before that, Euromissile had upgraded one FlaRakRad system to the brand new Roland 3 standard. This incorporated an extra 2 ready to launch missile tubes above the original ones and upgraded the electro-optical sensors. You can read more about it in the FlaRakRad Roland 3 suggestion. According to sources, the Roland 3 weapon system by Euromissile comes stock with compatibility to the VT-1, RM5 (Roland Mach 5) and HFK-KV Roland (see below) missiles.

The system that completes this Fla-Rak-Rad-Komplex is the is the LÜR.
Produced by Hensoldt, the Luftraum Überwachungs Radar (LÜR) is, similar to the FGR, although more advanced in the sense that it has a 3D AESA radar system, called TRMS, with longer range and better performance. Intended for surveilling larger areas, it provides more comprehensive air defense awareness for all systems including Rolands and the boader HFlaAFÜSys (Heeresflugabwehraufklärungs und Gefechtsführungssystem). The tradeoff being that it does not posses any self concealing techniques such as smoke grenades. It, just like the FGR, can operate its radar on its rooftop as well as with the mast extended.

All things considered, the main star of the show is arguably the missile component of this system. Allow me to re-introduce, the HFK-KV: The Ultimate Roland. A missile to give even the new Pantsir a run for its money (and lose that run). For it can not only out accelerate the russian missile (0 to mach 5 in 1 second), but also out speed it (Mach 7+ max speed), out G-overload it (100G), out range it (50km max)(how much better can it get? (a bit more)), out explosive it (5Kg) AND it has an IIR seeker for guidance during the last 2 seconds. Yeah, its a beast, go check it out!
Complete list of all German Roland variants
- FlaRakPz Roland 1 (RU243 chassis)
- FlaRakPz 1 Roland 1
- FlaRakPz 1 Roland 2
- FlaRakPz 1A2 Roland 2 NDV
- FlaRakRad Roland 2
- FlaRakRad Roland 2 LVB
- FlaRakRad 2 Roland 2 NDV
- FlaRakRad Roland 3
- FlaRakRad/Pz VT-1 compatibility testbed
Specifications: LÜR
Crew: 3 (Commander, Radio operator, Driver)
—Dimensions and mass—
Mass: 24.2t
Length: 9.98m
Width: 2.5m
Height: 2.98m
Mast height: 12m
—Mobility—
Engine: V-8 Diesel (turbo)
Engine Power: 360 hp
—Radar—
3D AESA Radar
Band: C-Band
Cycles: 13-26rpm (two modes)
Radar search range: 100km
Radar search altitude: 10km
Maximum tracked targets: 4000
Maximum targets engaged targets: ?
Specifications: FlaRakRad Roland 3
Crew: 3+1 (Commander, Gunner, Radio operator) +Driver (but roles may be overlapping)
—Dimensions and mass—
Mass (SARO + truck): 27.5t
Length: 9.75m
Width / with mirror: 2.9m / 3.3m
Height / Search radar active: 3.95m / 5.52m
—Mobility—
Engine power: 360hp (236kW)
Top speed: 80kmph
Wading depth: 1.20m
Carrier vehicle: 15t MAN CAT I A1 (8x8)
—Ammunition—
Types: Roland 2, Roland 3, VT-1, HFK-KV
Number of missiles: 4 ready + 8 in magazine
—Search Radar—
Siemens MPDR-16 Pulse Doppler radar
Band: D-Band
Radar search range: 16km
Radar search altitude: 3km
—Tracking Radar—
Thomson-CSF Domino 30 Monopulse radar
Band: J-Band
Radar track range: 16km
Radar track altitude: 16km
—Self protection—
Smoke grenades: 16 (4 + 4 front, 4 + 4 rear)
—Equipment—
TVD: Yes
Stabiliser: Yes
Sources
- Direct correspondence with Military History Museum of the German Armed Forces: Roland NDV program (limited availability on request)
- Direct correspondence with Military History Museum of the German Armed Forces: Roland weapon system stabiliser (limited availability on request)
- EADS Roland NDV project description document (2003)
- Defense-Aerospace
- Forecast international
- Wehrtechnik, 1987/10
- Forecast international: MPDR 3002 S radar
- Forecast international
- https://www.iqytechnicalcollege.com/Radar%20&%20Electronic%20Warefare.pdf
- Roland (Waffensystem) – Wikipedia
- LÜR – Wikipedia
- TRML - Wikipedia -EN/DE- Nahbereichsradar – Wikipedia
- FlaRakGrp42: Roland FGR
- FlaRakGrp42: Roland FRR
- Der Marder feiert in 2021 sein 50-jähriges | Rheinmetall
- FlaRakSys ROLAND 1 - FGR (Bw)
- TRM-S - Radartutorial
- TRML-2D - Radartutorial
- ROLAND
- frr-8.de_startseite
- http://www.flak11.de
- http://www.tla-der-nva.de
- http://www.dsu-22.de
- SERVOWATT: Glossar | LÜR Luftraum Überwachungs Radar
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