Moving 2s38 to 10.7 is such an atrocious decision

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lol Su-24M is inferior to F-111F, handily.
HQ17 doesn’t have 17km range missiles to deal with F-111F.
Su-24M engagement range is ~9km.
TV guided lock range is 3 - 6km, and IR guided lock range is 13 - 15km.

The Soviet counterpart to F-111F would be a Mig-27 using Kh-38MT… which doesn’t exist.
And that’d still be slightly more powerful than the F-111F.

@kedrigern
You probably shouldn’t attack people that demanded 2S38 to 10.7 while agreeing with them.
Especially when your views represent my views on many issues…

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At 10.3 you have access to a very strong lineup for the br, putting the 2s38 up isnt really a big nerf to the 2s38 itself but a nerf to the russian 10.3 lineup which does need the nerf

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Ummmm… what?

Did you change your mind?

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Include me in the screen cap

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lol, the only reason the 2S38 is so low is cuz of its negative statistics, so many premium players repeatedly dying. A decent player would have no problem playing it at 11.0 or higher

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few years ago, the vehicle was used by bots and their actions were relatively limited to spawning and waiting.

The spawn/kill/death ratio is extremely low.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/14cz3uv/war_thunder_yall_need_to_check_for_scripted_bots/

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I never really considered it overpowered, just annoying and honestly this makes little difference except it will no longer see 2nd gen MBTs like the Leo 1A5.

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It doesnt need to. If you launch stuff from 17km it will either miss / fall somewhere early / get intercepted thanks to low speed. Hq17 can plant box at some neat spot and eliminate all your munitions launched from that range until match ends.

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if i can do decently in an ajax (as long as theres no BMPT) then most will be just fine in the same thing but more powerful at 11.0

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The failure wagon

I might be crazy but I actually think a scimitar LEP 235 would be more fun than Ajax at like 9.7 maybe.

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I fail to see the issue. You’d rather use the 2S38 with the 10.7 lineup, anyway, so you can have goodies like the 2S6.

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youre smoking some strong stuff to think a Scimitar LEP can go above 8.3 even with the APFSDS that was NEVER used

Thermals, plasan armour packages and a tank laser sight will only improve the scimitar to be a worse armoured warrior alternative without an ATGM launcher.
no stabilisation of the gun either

all the scimitars in the files could only appear at 8.0

the scorpion variant (sabre) is literally just scimitar again from gameplay
the diesel wont give much advantage from the extra weight and mk2 is an extra third taller.

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I don’t like the MK.2 it’s ugly

I’ve used the normal scimi at 9.7 just fine.

If they fixed the outstanding armour issues and gave it the extra armour along with LRF and whatnot it’ll be very fun.

You will be able to tank most 30 mm round at medium to long range.

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…no

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What do you mean no?

Could put it at 8.0 to bully the other light tanks.

Also awesome job on the armour thickness you actually took a tape measure to it lol.

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It should be 12.7, as every other russian IFVs

OP af

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huuh idk yesterday i was playing top br with my Leo2A7V and got killed by a few 2s38 frontal shoots

For me its ok if they go up since it would mean 9.3 and 9.7 would be more safer from these annoying creatures

Btw some ppl dont want it 10.7 because it ruins their lineup or something? Excuse me but when i want to play Leopard 2A4 i need to pair it with 11.0 and face full uptiers because germany has no 10.7 lineup.

And russia DOES have 10.7 lineup, you guys will have 2S6 and a T80

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How can you not be fed up with complaining about Russian equipment in every discussion?

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2s38 is utter trash that used to be OP back when it was first introduced when the ammorack was much smaller and there was a bug that it wouldn’t detonate right now it’s completely useless

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