That little bit lets you front pen mbts unlike 2s38
-17 vs -5, thats huge difference
32 hp/t vs 23 hp/t, 2s38 isnt just bit slower
On sides yes, otherwise no
Hstvl also has one (sort of). The difference is that hstvl loses commander and 2s38 loses entire tank because of ammo in that turret
Rear part - electric system, engine, transmission, center - ammo, front - crew, driving/firing controls, huge external fuel tank which explodes vehicle pretty often.
2s38 is worse in every way except lws, ammo count and rof. Even hevt (on vehicle which is spaag irl) has less range than hstvl one, 5km vs 8km.
As long as proxy performs as well as it does, while AHEAD sucks. And as long as the 2S38 can reasonably front pen many MBTs while the 30mm on NATO IFV is crap. I genuinely agree that it should go up even more.
Only reason it’s stats aren’t “that great” is because people play it like an MBT. I’ve virtually never seen a 2S38 go hull down or flank. They’re usually driving straight out at enemies and firing wildly, because it works more than half the time.
Its servicable.Obviously its gonna fail when people try to play it like MBT - it simply isnt one.
But playing it like light rank, its entirely different story.
However one thing people are overlooking is that it does not matter whenever 2S38 sits at 10.3 or 10.7 - nothing will change about the way 2S38 is played.
It will have to engage enemy tanks the exact same way. It will die the exact same way.
The only question that should be asked is what it can meet in downtier - and it simply shouldnt meet 9.3, which are often poorly armored tanks without proper gun handling and most importantly, armor to effecticely force 2S38 to go for weakspots.
BR of 10.7 is perfectly fine because it does not change how 2S38 plays while it helps 9.3s.
Has the best turret for hull down, unlike other light tanks it can take infinite number of darts to the turret without having to worry about your crew’s health. A bad vehicle for cqc maps but brilliant for large maps that allowing it to abuse hull down.
Rarely happens to mine, only cook off, third time I am without any ammo left but vehicle and crew still remain 100% healthy. Die to ATGM from Adats to the turret cheek like once
The regular PUMA has NO Atgms, at all. None, zero, zilch. And no, it does not have armor. It can be 50cal’d from the entire back and even some areas on the side. And 30mm punches clean through everywhere.
To then, sit there and do nothing. Because the peashooter is literally incapable of penning most everything unless it’s fully side on to you. And after two hits to the turret you’re usually out of ammo. Oh and any HE to the turret or MUSS cone instantly kills it. Same for many ATGMs. Which you can absolutely and do absolutely meet at that BR.
I’d trade you the PUMA instantly for the 2s38. I doubt you’d do the same. One is massively more played for a reason. And it aint the PUMA.