Sure… and the Abrams, M1128, 2A4, Challenger 1s, ZTZ-96As…
Or just none of them.
Also T-series can’t peak corners anymore than all other tanks, they have an idler wheel weakspot that results in their death every time.
That’s tracks, which all tracks are the same in that regard.
Are you sure the ERA do anything in stopping your apfsds? for the most part if you can’t pen that area then it will not pen even when the ERA is not there. Which spot you wanna test and with which ammunition? I will go in user mission to test them out.
Except a .6s slower reload and better armor profile.
It’s inconsistent. Sometimes it acts normally, but randomly, it’ll stop Hellfires or Spikes or DM53 randomly. I don’t know why, it just does.
Which is why I don’t like it being 10.3.
Yes we already went over this if you scroll down.
Volumetric mostly. Also I do agree Gaijin needs to tweak ERA a bit. Sometimes it doesn’t disappear when hit.
I ain’t readin allat. Read title and top 2 comments, chimed in, them ima dip. :)
Imo, at most the T-80UD could go to 10.7, but it still has plenty of flaws that should probably keep it 10.3 (^>.>^)
sorry, i don’t know why it replied to you, i meant to send it without replying to anyone
This is what I’m talking about Axzuel. The ERA randomly acts up.
That would be volumetric and isn’t unique to ERA. The last 2 shots were because ERA was blocking most penetration meaning by the time the round penetrated it did not have enough energy to create deadly spalling.
That’s not volumetric Axzuel. It’s very clearly the ERA being weird.
And secondly, the fact that the ERA can stop a dart round point blank side on that consistently is why it shouldn’t be 10.3.
The M1 Abrams can hardly pen it side on reliably as seen in the clip. If that’s the case, it should also be 10.7 where the T-80B is.
I mean the M1 also has a laughably weak round and its not like the T-80 was flat side, he was angled quite a bit and angled even more after you shot.
He wasn’t angled when I shot him the first time and the Abrams is at 10.7
M774 might not be the best round, but it shouldn’t consistently non-penetrate the side of tanks at a BR lower than it.
Even then, Kontakt-5 is capable of stopping DM53 the same way.
First shot again was volumetric. You can tell because the round just disappears and doesn’t cause any damage to the ERA.
That’s a dumb reasoning. The M1 gets m774 because it has a lower reload than everybody else, its also faster and has a decent hull armour at that BR. Everyone else gets around at least 400-410mm of pen even at 9.3.
that happens constantly with the ERA.
The Armor of the Abrams isn’t significantly different than the Leopard’s when it comes to the hull. The main difference is the turret ring weakpoint. The Abrams is also significantly faster.
The Abrams is certainly a good tank, but 9.3 has far worse shells than M774. The T-80UD shouldn’t see those vehicles.
Only the MBT-70s which have other aspects to why they are 9.3 like their insane mobility and 20mm gun.
It IS better, but not significantly. Especially when it still gets lolpenned by ever 9.3+ APFSDS. Neither the Leopard or Abrams can really stop anything reliably to their hull.
There’s a lot of M60 and Centurion type vehicles at 9.3 that shouldn’t see a T-80UD.
These vehicles are just as slow as the T-80UD, have a longer reload rate, and can’t hope to stop the vehicle anywhere. It shouldn’t see these tanks.
1st shot I think bounced off the roadwheel with how it changed angle
2nd shot the round was mostly wasted by the ERA so didn’t do much post pen (beyond keeping you alive by damaging his gun breech enough), not that unusual especially when M774 is an anemic round
3rd shot was too low, went through a dead fuel tank and then hit the floor and went under the carousel
I’ve had L27 absorbed point blank dead side on by Relikt which was fun but I can’t contribute any of this to ERA with 100% certainty, side shots can be weird when rounds start bouncing off tracks and wheels, then there’s spaced side fuel tanks on the Leclerc/Leopard where I’ve had rounds vanish through multiple ricochets.
idk if the UD deserves higher than 10.3, USSR is super stacked this BR and it would be nice if there was more attention to other nations to bring them up to par.
Current 9.3s also has several vehicles that use DM63, one is the biritsh olifant and the other one I don’t remember I think its from Israel magach 1234567abcd or something
Yes it can. If you angle slightly in the Abrams you can bounce 105mm DM33 or 120mm DM23 on the hull. Also the Abrams UFP is an autobounce.
I mean they’re an entire BR below the T-80UD no shit the T-80UD can pen them anywhere.
And before you say “Oh but 11.3 tanks can’t pen the T-80UD’s front”. They’re 11.3 because of mobility, thermals, round, reload, and their armour.
The apfsds from the mbt-70/800 and kpz-70 seem underperforming, my t-64 probably killed 50 of them from the front and literally don’t remember ever dying to them, if you only expose your turret to them then there is literally next to lottery chance to kill you with apfsds, unless they smart enough to load the HEAT if the range is >1km
