Keep the current pay to progress formula, sell skins, sell premium vehicles that are just reskins of TT ones but offer economical benefits.
Theres no need to have any pay to win aspects for WT to sruvive.
In fact id argue that no pay to win aspects make people invest into the game more lol so continuing with expanding on the pay to win aspect of the game will only damage them in a long run.
T-72 Arena is event tank and its free for anyone who grinded the event.
BMPT-72 released at 10.3, and fills out entirely different niche to T-80UD. It was clearly meant to complement T-80UD in the lineup. Also they are monetized differently, T-80UD was GE premium from the start, whereas BMPT-72 is pack premium.
Slight difference as usually old pack premiums are replaced by new ones, which didnt happen here.
wtf are you even saying here lmao, i geniunely dont understand.
ERA rarely stops APFSDS, pretty sure ur APFSDS doesn’t get absolutely absorbed by K-5 that often.
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it’s ERA, it’s literally made to stop HEAT, and ATGMs are just propelled HEAT rounds. skill issue if u don’t aim for the weakspots or destroy it’s cannon to nulify it’s possibility of counterattacking.
now T-80UD is 10.7, which imo is pretty unfair since it’s literally just a 10.3 T-72 with better reload and mobility AND without thermals which basically all 10.7 tanks have, and i always say: if u only complain about a single vehicle at a specific BR when there’s many other similar vehicles at the same BR, then u rather have a skill issue or a problem against the players of that nation in particular.
T-72B (1989) has the same ERA, same top speed/reverse speed, slightly worse engine, slightly worse reload…all that at the same 10.3 BR as the old T-80UD (and plus it has better armor since T-72s were made to have armor while T-80s were made to have mobility, that’s why they’re very agile), and if u only complain about the 80UD then i don’t understand what the T-72B (1989) lacks that u don’t complain about it.
When you say era rarely stops apfsds do you mean kontact 1? Because im sorry but relikt over performs like shit still due to the buggyness of the game. Even kontact 1/5 to a certain extent as ive had low calibre apfsds just be eaten by them while shooting the sides of mbts. Theyll either eat all the damage and cause the round to create no spall or stop the round outright while not even detonating and just going yellow… Although this may be more due to gaijins lazy method at calculating apfsds rounds bellow 76mm.
K5 and relict does. Thats their key difference from earlier era like k1.
Emphasizing on 500x300 thermals of 10.7 seems to be bigger skill issue to me. Or vision issue lol.
Does it have same amount of era on sides? That does matter against autocannons and side shots at extreme angles.
21.7 hpt vs 18.9 hpt
7 second isnt “slightly worse” mate. Its worst reload speed at toptier while 6s is at least equal to leo 2 aces and faster than chinese autoloaders.
You do know that U modification comes with much better protection compared to earlier t series? Thats one of reasons why soviets developed it. You can compare them in prot analysis instead of “t72 armor t80 speed”.
I think t80ud being better than its counterpart in every way makes t80ud br more than justified.
it’s TVD whatsoever, T-80UD doesn’t even have 1st Gen thermals at 10.7, while T-80B has at the same BR (honestly i dunno why T-72 has K-5 at 10.3 but T-80 doesn’t at 10.7).
10.7 tanks don’t have 2nd Gen thermals?
happened to me once in the T-72B3 “Arena” and never in the T-80UD. imo skill issue, it can’t happen THAT often.
say that till u face forest maps with huge density of trees and bushes and u can’t see a sh*t cuz a bush is thicker than a concrete wall.
idk why u should worry about that but yes both have the same amount of ERA on sides.
that is not top speed, that’s hp/t ratio which affects acceleration and turning, not stop speed.
slightly worse compared to the 6secs reload of the T-80, basically u’re exchanging reload for lower BR.
both have the exact same armor from pure steel to ERA, with the T-72B (1989) having 2 pieces of ERA less than the T-80UD in the turret.
after hearing Leopard 2A4 doesn’t have 2nd Gen Thermals i could change my opinion, but i still feel it lacks things for 10.7.
Its not that helpful especially at such resolution. T80b is at higher br because of better mobility and reload. And maybe 500x300 thermals.
2a4 in question doesnt have gen 2 tvd. 12.7 strv122b+ also dont have gen 2 gunner tvd (only for commander)
Got 512 battles on ud alone so I think Im pretty much free to say that
For better protection against autocannons and bad placed shots. Also by amount I meant area covered by era. Ud has better era coverage on sides
In this case, hpt ratio is what matters most, not max speed. And ud wins there.
You just told one of reasons of those two being on different brs. Also ud used to outreload almost any opponent at 9.3-10.3 even tho their 6.7s reload was “slightly” worse. So its not that slightly.
Compared to what soviets have at 10.3 ud was just “pay to get tank better than free to play tech tree analogs and even better than more expensive pack turms” so devs changed that ig. Doubt people will buy turms more (especially after ue1 introduction) but t64b and t72b now look like smth worth playing and not just embodiment of mocking f2p players
Aye I noticed man, bit of a wild take but seeing as the 80UD is still one of russias best tanks at that BR.
The T80B is slightly better due to the mobility but the UD has the same firepower, better protection, better optics.
so you’ve no idea about how the game works lol the T80U is 11.7 with gen 1 gunner thermals, leopard 2a5 and 6 are top tier! with gen 1 gunner thermals.
M1A1 HC and M1A2 lack gen 2 thermals.
Gen 2 thermals are extremely rare at those BRs, the ZTZ 96A and (P) have them right enough.
But bar that I can’t really think of many 10.7s which actually get gen 2 thermals.
tam 2C? lol
the T80UD doesn’t need thermals especially not gen 1 thermals which suck, it has a 13x modification on it’s optics exactly the same as the T80U and variants. or the T90A
I prefer to not use thermals in those situations as it blurs out so much with gen one thermals.
the 7 second reload adds up to an extra shot every minute, that is a massive boon in comparison to the T72s, as wella s that the T80UD is far more mobile as it has around 200 horse power more.
No they don’t, as you have been shown the T80UD has better composites than the T72B 1989.
Makin it out as if the 80UD is like a t72 is quite funny tho
Damn someone reported my other comment up above lol
