Move the MIG-23ML to 11.0

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The F-104J can already face it at 10.3 lol

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my point is that the MiG-23ML is already a strong aircraft at 11.3 and should not go down

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Yes, that’s my point. The MIG-23ML is strong at 11.3 and would be even better at 11.0 encouraging even more sales. It’s a no brainer.

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It’s currently placed there because it’s a 23ML. If anything, it should stay there and have its R-24s removed.

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Should the 23M then go down to 10.7?

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So essentially what you are saying is you want Gaijin to add pay to win vehicles to the game that are so totally OP that nothing can beat them?

In that case, Harrier Gr1 to 8.0 please.

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What does this mean?

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Planes have flares beginning at ~10.0 I don’t know why you wouldn’t be able to beat a plane that is 0.3 lower than it is now.

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Ah yes, because “flares” are the only requirement for an aircraft to be able to defeat a Mig-23ML and that I will be able to reliably dogfight a Mig-23ML in the Jaguar Gr1A because it has flares

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It means that it is a superior MiG-23 to all previous MiG-23s at 11.0

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You shouldn’t be able to dogfight any vehicle in a Jaguar that’s not its job.

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But it has flares.

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Yes it’s very good.

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So… 11.3.

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Yes and you should have no issue evading its missiles unless you’re climbing high to where it can use its radar missiles on you.

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Is where it’s currently at. If it was placed at 11.0 it would perform better and incentivize more sales.

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Ah yes, because the Mig-23ML doesnt have a gun.

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You’re circling back to “you shouldn’t be dogfighting in a Jaguar”.

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No… You just said

therefore you are stating that ANY aircraft at 10+ that has flares can beat the Mig-23ML. The Jaguar Gr1A is 10.3 and has flares. Therefore it should be able to defeat the Mig-23ML by your criteria. It cannot,

You then state:

Except, you cant flare guns. Your only way of defending against the Mig-23ML would be to try and turn fight it. But you would loose immediately. Doesnt matter that the Jaguar Gr1A is a strike bomber and not a dogfighter.

The Mig-23ML moving to 11.0 would be total BS and mean that BRs have no value anymore. It would kill the game. If premiums get a BR solely to boost sales, then move ALL premiums down 0.3-0.7 BR, they would all sell 10x more, though people would only play Premiums and the game owuld become pay to play

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Which is irrelevant, as its performance places it at 11.3.