Move Su-27 to 14.0, move Yak-141 to 12.7, move MiG-29G to 13.0

I agree with most of the things said in this post. The max BR needs to move up to 14.0 in all game modes.

(Not like 3456 different posts have been made about this since 2015.)

But not just the Soviet Union. The F-15 is STILL 12.3 despite the fact every other 12.3 aircraft went up.
Also the F-4S/J is 11.3 which is the same BR as the F-4J(UK) and the Tornado F.3. AND the F-5C is… It’s alright. Could do with an increase in the temperature department but other than that it’s not all that OP.

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Generally I’d like to see that 14.0 BR increase and if that were to happen I’d kindly ask the Tornado F Mk 3 to be put around 12.3. The Phantom F Mk 3, F-4J/S would go to around 11.7/12.0

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BLUD they of course did whine, they wanted the r73 since the aim9l was introduced, they wanted the r27er since they got the r27r and r27t when the f16a (without aim7s) was added. We got the aim7m’s being garbage copy pastes of the a7f, while you got r27er’s that act with a mind of their own many seconds after you eventually notched the radar that is guiding them. IT’S A FACT. You can have gripens in your team, if you fight against russia and china while being gripens, two su27s and the rest being aim7m/matra 530 launchers you’re going to lose. It’s the way it is, there is NO CHANCE AT ALL for any NON USSR team to BVR, maybe only the tomcat.

where did I want the f-5c to be buffed? All I’m saying is that is a very niche plane and that many other 10.3s like the crusader and the smt should go up. This community is very good at putting words in mouths.

the f-4s is a menace, the f-4j is not; mostly because it’s wings are weak and is extremely heavy and will snap the moment you make a slightly aggressive turn. The F-4S is lighter than the f-4e even with the gunpod, I do see it very well going to 11.7 alongside the mig23 ml; and the mirage 2000 sc4 going to 12.0 with option to four magic 2s and no 530d at least instead of just two.

F5C is a very good plane

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yes, but the smt and the crusader are clearly better.

The only difference is combat flaps

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WHAT we did not want r-73 since aim9l was introduced it was usa who wanted 9m’s cuz they cried about r-24’s and then usa cried about aim9x for like what 2 years now ?

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No your coping again

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and he made another cope thread lmao

https://forum.warthunder.com/t/move-f-15a-to-12-7-remove-aim9ls-from-starter-grinds-on-planes-with-aim9ls-and-aim9ms-go-straight-ahead-to-aim9m/95770/2

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he finally accepted one thing that f-15a is underbr’d and asks for buffs after putting it at 12.7 xD

hy do you think not? Four higher G missiles, radar missiles, more engine power, overall higher top speed, better guns? the f-5c is busted as it is, but lacks in armament. The other 10.3 I talk about (smt/mf, j35d and f8e) are better in every single regard. Do you want the f-5c’s flares removed and moved to 10.0? No, right? Nobody wants that. Why would other 10.0-9.3s have to put with 20g-30g missiles they cant dodge nor flare/chaff? why would they even have to cope with the performance of these planes they can’t even engage with because their playstyle is more orthodox and suffix to keeping your speed while scoring kills without engaging? The F-5 at least NEEDS to engage and you can give it a whooping if you know their weaknesses. Most of my kills on the su25 are gun kills against f-5c’s and f-5e’s I’ve reversed. Same goes for the SMT since I do not bother attacking subsonics or flareless aircraft (unless draken) and everyone that pays attention can easily flare chaff r3r and r60s.

delulu russian main moment. The aim9x thing is a joke to mock the american mains and you still took it seriously. The issue was not the r24r, it was the fact that the MTI radar was harder to notch and chaff than that on the first doppler viggen. YOU wanted r73 since aim9l got released with the apache and then the a10; you got the r73s on the dev servers and they were absolutely busted; they then got removed on release because they were too strong with the mig29 already whooping the f16 in 1v1 on release before the f16 got changed and could actually rate fight.

no the american mains are delulu thinking their aircrafts suck lmao and no mti was not harder to notch and chaff than other pd radars R-73’s on dev server werent busted they barely even worked they spinned 99% out of control after fired F-16 on release was a good aircraft that could rate at its rate speed like it should and now it is just overperforming stop coping

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Literally best 10.3 plane says it is terrible

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Lol

R60s have less than 1.5km of effective range because of that having 4 high G missiles isnt that much of an advantage. However AIM-9Ds have higher range but they are easily flareable and you can even dodge them by maneuvering. F-5s have one of the coldest engines in game. It’s really hard to get a lock on them unless you are within 1km.

They are fine at their BR.