they’re so high in BR because only four people have the nads to play them and are good at them.
I think you may have officially lost the plot…
Granted Hispanos once in a while can have inconsistant damage. Blowing a wing clean off in what feels like a single hit and then the next encounter multiple rounds seeming just to “hit” but they are far from bad. More often than not, a well placed burst will just shread the target.
Based upon stat cards. The Sea Fury leaves the J6K1 in the dust. Sea Fury has a max speed of 724 kmph vs the J6K1’s 686 kmph. So I have no idea why you think an aircraft that is a full BR higher than the Sea Fury and actually slower than it is a good yard stick for why the Sea Fury need any BR reduction. (in fact it almost indicates maybe it needs a higher BR )
Advocating for an aircraft that to me at least on paper looks to be about right for the 5.7/6.0 BR to go down at all just seems totally off-base. But if it does need to go down at all. Then advocating for reasonable BR reduction might aid you a tad. Perhaps argue why it needs to go down to 5.3 before arguing that it needs to go down to 3.7 (where it would dominate everything with absolute impunity)
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Check the Sim stats bub
Edit: and a majority of the deaths come from using it for CAS in Ground Sim, not to other fighters
so you admit… that it really is
a skill issue?
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It’s also worth noting, unless I missed an update, the Sea Fury is still being limited to peacetime engine settings
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can we talk about the sea fury too please
indeed, it’s a skill issue and i’m sadly part of the players that pump it up in BR. 3.7KD and counting also my highest KD of any (actual) plane. My Potez 20mm + 7.7mm at 3.3 is 15 to 0 but who cares, took the plane to start grinding france for a mirage but bought the sc4 for 20 bucks.
Took it out for a spin last night. Just as dominant as ever, if not moreso as now it can play without dealing with 6.0 and 6.3 all the time. Stealth belts still rake everything from single engine fighters to at least medium bombers, didn’t get to shoot any heavies. The only time I died was diving on someone and exceeding 472 knots, causing sudden wing top ejection, yet still has enough controllability to aim and kill the guy, just not pull up in time. Best visibility for a prop, tied with most of the other bubble canopies.
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The FR47 doesn’t need to go down in BR, it needs its proper flight model. It’s underpowered by a couple hundred HP
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people when the concept of “energy fighting” is mentioned
Hah, this discussion again.
The Sea Fury is superb. It doesn’t need a B.R change. It’s wickedly fast, climbs very well (similarly to a Ki-84 which isn’t exactly a slug), has great firepower, stupidly good energy retention and is surprisingly agile at speed. In SB I can absolutely bully 109’s and Ki-84’s in it.
It’s the master of boom and zoom/slashing attacks, just don’t get into prolonged turn fights with it.
You have died a count of 23 times on the Sea Fury in simulator battles by May 05.
The Sea Fury is not dominant and you’re just trying to gather enough people to admire you and praise your skills. People that actually know the sea fury in AIR RB will know it’s a wacky plane whose major drawback is not the turn, not the low rip speed, not the straight line speed, not the most fragile flaps right after the spitfire, but the sheer lack of acceleration and loss of thrust and engine power past 340kmh of indicated airspeed. The 109 G-6 literally catches it up at 6km of altitude, even despite the G-6 is a low altitude aircraft and the sea fury is a 4000-5500 flyer.
I’ve literally toyed with sea fury grandmasters on the tu-2, the Do335 and the 109 K4 even though I was on the energy disadvantage.
Hah, this discussion again.
You necroed this post.
The Sea Fury is superb. It doesn’t need a B.R change. It’s wickedly fast
(Is slower than any other 5.7 fighter and takes more to reach any speed)
climbs very well (similarly to a Ki-84 which isn’t exactly a slug)
(literally gets out climbed by the AU-1 which is a goddamn attacker)
has great firepower,
Which I agree, but has only 500 rounds
stupidly good energy retention
Yes, because below 500 IAS it just doesn’t turn. That is not good energy retention. Try turning with negative G tapping, while most planes at the BR keep their speed (like P51s) or keep accelerating (like Yak3s and 109s) the sea fury will gradually dump the speed.
and is surprisingly agile at speed. In SB I can absolutely bully 109’s and Ki-84’s in it.
It can bully them in air RB too, in fact it turns tighter than the 109 and can force overshoot Spitfire LF Mk9s, but it can only turn once before turning into a brick with wings. There is an issue , thought. One really has to lack knowledge on their vehicle to simply die to a plane below them.
It’s the master of boom and zoom/slashing attacks, just don’t get into prolonged turn fights with it.
[hysterically laughs in P51 D30 being faster, climbing better and doing pretty much everything else better while a whole BR lower]
The FW190 D9 is just a single kmh slower than the sea fury at sea level, but has workable flaps and actual energy retention. And it turns worse, but having a better engine will help it go vertical against a sea fury and fall on top of it.
Sea Fury is like a true multirole platform at a time before multirole platforms. Tons of power and firepower.
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I am stealing that :D
Nooo neverrrr
Yeah… That tends to happen, especially when using it as a CAS platform.
Yet in the same frame you can literally see it’s amassing a 2.9KD with the thing. That’s literally on average ejecting an entire players spawn points with a single spawn in GSB.
Yeah, people that don’t know how a plane performs without the game doing it for them don’t matter to me, cheers though o7
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I didn’t necro anything, the post before me was made May 26th.
It’s faster than even the monster Yak-3U from 4000ft and every altitude above that where it just extends its lead further… it’s faster than the TA-152 at almost every altitude and faster than the K-4 depending on the altitude whilst the Sea Fury has much better energy retention.
It’s faster than the D-30 above 3000m.
You sir are lying or doing something massively wrong, the Sea Fury climbs faster at every altitude and is literally over a minute faster to 20,000ft. As mentioned if you check the official data sheets the Sea Fury pretty much matches the Ki-84, it utterly destroys the P-51D-30… which funnily enough IS actually slower to 20,000ft.
Still more than what 109’s have and they do fine. Plus you have four cannons compared to one.
Why are you flying it below 500IAS and getting yourself into trouble with things you can’t out turn? If you want to see where its energy retention shines go into a dive and then level out, watch how well it can cling onto speed. Better yet dive from 10,000ft and then go into a vertical zoom, watch how high it goes.
Already completely debunked the D-30 quote above… you aren’t even close to reality.
The D-9 is so far the only aircraft that can potentially give the Sea Fury problems and even then as you’ve stated the Sea Fury is still superior in areas. Surely at this point you need to stop saying the Sea Fury needs a BR decrease and instead that the D-9 needs a BR increase.
As I’ve already said the Ki-84 is a superb aircraft and yet the Sea Fury climbs neck and neck with it, out runs it, holds retains energy better, is more mobile at high speed and I’d bet it’d be better in a zoom as well.
my guy, it gets outperformed by 4.7 planes. The funniest thing is that none of you who try to refute my argument about the sea fury’s underwhelming nature lie about your stats or straight up do not play the sea fury in none of the existing game modes.
try playing the sea fury in air RB where everyone can see where you are. Of course, in sim mode anyone is a menace to anyone, boom and zoom is the meta of sim because you’re above and mostly on the six of the enemy so you’re forcing it to look behind while flying forward.
233/99 < 282/86 and with an instructor limit.
The sea fury in sim mode is a whole different animal. Still it does not dump on ki84s or 190s. These two out perform it in every single metric including and especially energy retention and climb rate.
It’s faster than even the monster Yak-3U from 4000ft and every altitude above that where it just extends its lead
And yet it takes thrice the amount of time to reach said speeds. The BI is a very slow jet that even compresses really badly past 700 IAS ( which are the minimum speeds everyone is flying at it’s br) and yet the fact it can reach critical speeds quicker than other jets makes it dangerous.
You sir are lying or doing something massively wrong, the Sea Fury climbs faster at every altitude and is literally over a minute faster to 20,000ft. As mentioned if you check the official data sheets the Sea Fury pretty much matches the Ki-84, it utterly destroys the P-51D-30… which funnily enough IS actually slower to 20,000ft.
Are you aware that the p51d30 is a sub 4km alt fighter and that rarely air rb matches develop above 5km of altitude? Are you aware that the p51d30 is literally faster than the 109 k4 below 2km of altitude even though both are low altitude tuned aircraft? how do you have the sheer AUDACITY that the sea fury matches the ki84, a highly agile prop that has a 32m/s climb rate on min fuel and 15 degrees with the sea fury that barely has 23m/s?
Official data sheets shall NOT be trusted, this is the main proof that you are a shill. Official data sheets say that the swift f7 only has a 30m/sec climb rate on spade performance (20m/s less than the mig17) and yet it out climbs the cl13b mk6 and the mig17f of the chinese premium pack (also named Shenyang F-5).
Still more than what 109’s have and they do fine. Plus you have four cannons compared to one.
So for you the j7w1 which can break mach 0.85 above 3km of altitude without compressing and has four 30mm cannons is the best aircraft in game, huh?
Why are you flying it below 500IAS and getting yourself into trouble with things you can’t out turn? If you want to see where its energy retention shines go into a dive and then level out, watch how well it can cling onto speed. Better yet dive from 10,000ft and then go into a vertical zoom, watch how high it goes.
I don’t fly it below 500 ias, it just reaches that speed the moment I make the slightest movement. As I said, the sea fury does not possess good energy retention. It’s engine power is limited, and it has shorter, smaller area wings compared to the tempest mk2, which turns so much worse and yet is such a fantastic aircraft because it has the speed, engine power, MER and climb rate a 5.7 deserves.
My theory about war thunder players going crazy and overrating a plane for having above average climb rate even if it’s utter dog food is true. Such is the case with the mig19 when i had the quarrels about it back in the day, or the i225, or the ki83, planes i never ever had a single problem against even if the enemies were grandmasters that do TIMES THREE our stats. These planes I cry about are highly situational and the sea fury is the best for jumping on people that don’t know about your presence and running away at 800kmh, just like the j5n1 or the ta152C3. And in sim mode, ganking on unsuspecting people is how most frags are taken.