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every 9.0 that isnt the f3h rn
people will disagree here
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Spaded CA, felt not much worse than CL-13B Mk6 in an actual fight
Hell no, at 8.x+ BRs machine guns actually start to suck, and you really need something that deals heavier damage per shot. CA-27’s ADENs have fantastic belt choices, like the tracer-traceless belt with HE power enough to rip off the wing in a single hit if you land it. With 12.7mm, you will need to spray an amount of bullets to deal enough damage, and given how many nimble targets are at those BRs, unless you have an A7M2 flight performance, you are getting very litte sight-on-target time. So by no means ADENs are bad in that regard, the only thing that sucks is ammo count, but with some trigger discipline it’s actually more than enough
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i’d take 50 cals and snipe pilots than adens and having to pass four times before I can actually start shooting. This sets me in a very vulnerable position. You can check my stats on the CL13B aswell, i’ve died to aim7c only twice in the most bullshit ways possible in the CA27 but the biggest offender have always been F3H’s divebombing on me.
spaded CA can’t even keep up with sagi’s in the vertical, the cl13b literally outdogfights the Ariete and the yak130.
Ariete and Sagitario are something else, but I’ve played Sabre at 9.0, and CA-27 is either the same or even more capable in the situations I’ve witnessed
no it’s not capable, the cl13b can definitely shake f3h’s off its ass, the ca27 can’t even outrate them fast enough. It doesn’t even have the controllability to dodge head ons with f3h’s and neither does it have the agility to properly plant on it’s six. CA27 successfully dodging a f3h head on and merging will be left eating dust because how wide it’s turn radius is. It’s a terrible aircraft for air RB only profitting off of people getting slow and parasiting your team. As I said, my KD went from 4 in 100 matches to 3 in just 30 matches more just because of the f3h spam. Back then, most of them were stock. Now, they’re almost all spaded and mangling teams while having only mig21s and lightnings be the only things that can touch them
Idk, for me F3H was only problem when they had Sparrows to launch. Most of the time I succeeded in shaking off the Demons from the six so idk what are you talking about, maybe get better around throttle control and air brakes? Also this thing turns very well under ~800 km/h and thus can turn Demons more or less reliably, you should just not overaccelerate since it has a rather good energy retention and fine engine, and you compress heavily above 900 km/h. Demons are also really good, but their problem right now is a cumulative one whereas better missiles made an already good plane even better
this may be that i most play britain. but it honestly seems fine for 9.0 in NE.
if anything its evidence that all the other sabres need moving up
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no, to be honest, many 9.0’s should be moved up with some decompression and certain others need to be moved up without decompression
What?
CL13B Mk6:
.50 Cals; horrific compared to ADEN class guns.
Orenda 14: Same static thrust, 200kgf less thrust at sea level speed, 200kgf less thrust at mid altitude speed.
Worse climb rate.
Slightly worse sustained turn rate.
1v1’s an argument.
In air RB they’re pretty much the same flight performance metric, though CA27 will be able to get to stronger positions faster.
Air RB isn’t 1v1s, so while dogfight performance is something to consider, it’s not necessarily the example; especially when CA27 dogfights fine.
F3H & F11 are chronic boom & zoom aircraft.
F3H & its chronic 13 degrees per second sustained turn rate:
It can one-circle… if done right, but evading one-circle aircraft is a necessary skill learned from props.
i think the only thing the cac is worse is bc it lacks the sabre slats, apart from that it doesnt seem that bad tbh
Disclaimer: I dont have the CA-27 yet, but have played plenty with 30mm ADEN
30mm ADENs are… challenging to use, as they break every bit of muscle memory you have built up for any other gun in the game, but if you can land a hit, you kill the target. Generally they do favour being a little closer to the target, as it makes landing hits much easier.
So getting the most out of 30mm ADENs is a massive skill check
(and for the record, I suck at landing hits with 30mm ADEN, though seem to do wierdly well in the Jaaaag Gr1 but not in literally anything else with 30mm, and I have no good answer as to why)
its the AoA I think, the Jag can really rip the nose around, thus is way more responsive when compared with something like a hunter or harrier.
That is a strong possiblity.
The Harrier has the added challenge of gun position and angle too, which doesnt help.
Use one of the 2 others topics you created on this.
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Setting a timer until the F5 is mentioned, btw rico/mantis/boeing was saying the CA-27 was pretty good recently so I’m assuming he had one bad game and it prompted this post
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i mean we could check
what are you talking about, the cl13b has better flight performance below 900kmh and has better turn rate than the CAC Sabre.
It can one-circle… if done right, but evading one-circle aircraft is a necessary skill learned from props.
Not if that one-circle aircraft happens to have 20 percent more of your engine thrust and speed.
Aren’t boom and zoomer aircraft the meta of prop RB? Why not at a BR where the most dangerous missiles are carried by dogshit airframes that can’t even make them work?