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No. Either uptier it or leave it where it is.
Cute flag. I’m still 9000% right.
Exept this doest applies to apfsds, this would only really affects to hesh or large he, where where it actually generates a large shock at the very other end of the plate where this claimed integrated spall liner would be, apfsds are continuosly producing a force trough the material, this integrated era wouldnt really hace any effects form the stress that the, lets say, 30 mm of the material from a 100 mm plate would experience, as the initial “shock” that the apfsds could theoretically produce is long gone by the time tha round actually gets close to that area, and the potential initial “shocks” of an apfsds isnt rally close to produce any kind of spalling at at the other side of the plate.
Exept the force isnt really the same… due to the lager area the round would decelerate much faster, it might not be a linear correlation with the area, but the force isnt the same, also im talking about thin pates, where this larger area would produce a physically larger penetration, as the parts that are misaligned can still penetrate the armor by themselves, on larger plates this doesnt happens as the plate would be enough to stop does, and only the “aligned” parts of the round would make a full penetration.
Apfsds doesnt reelly “pull” any material for most of its travel, it does"push" material at the very end, as most of the material that is in the way gets abrased, rallistically after a certain point, they would produce around the same spall, granted that the round still have some sustancial energy left, sure very thin plates will generate much less spall, but after a certain point the they the spalling will flatline, compared to thickness.
The APFSDS round penetrating and moving through the armor creates a shockwave as it either pushes material out of the way or pushes/pulls material along with it (depending on the shape of the fragments of the armor and/or penetrator). The shockwave caused by the APFSDS would be lessened as it comes into contact with the integrated spall liner, which would lower the area of effect the shockwave would have on the innermost plate (and therefore reduce the amount of spall generated).
As a plate’s angle increases the area of the plate that would be pushed outwards by the penetrator is larger, but thinner plates spall less because there is less material to be pushed and/or pulled along with the penetrator. Basically, as the thickness of a plate increases the amount of spall will increase (assuming the round penetrates).
It depends on what you mean by “push” and “pull,” where I’m saying that “pulling” is any material that isn’t directly in the path of the projectile. An example of the extra material “pulled” along is here: https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA507994.pdf
The amount of spall generated increased as the thickness of the plate increased, as did the size of the spall ring (and therefore the spall cone behind the plate).
Where exaclty are you placing this integrated spall liner?
The thing is that im comparing two plates with the same thickness, one with a nera composite array before it and other without it, on the plates that it’s hitt by a misaligned round would generate more spall that the other plate with the thickness with a round intact, as long as the plate isnt thick enough where they only part of that actually penetrates is the part intact
The thing is that a lot of the mass that in the isnt directly in the way of the rod isnt really pulled by the round but they go “away” form the round and some of it is proyected backwards, while a lot of the material that is directly on the way is eroded by the round itself, also in that same document shows how a lot of the spall is generated by the last bit of travel like i was saying which is the ones that actually forms larger size fragments.
Also im not saying that thinner plates would generate more spall, rather at some point the amount of spall generated will flatline, aka that they dont follow a linear progression with thickness, what i mean is that for example a 500 mm plate would likely generate a similar spall than a 600 mm plate granted a similar residual velocity of the proyectile
Red is the outer composite, green is the integrated spall liner, yellow is the innermost plate (which is basically just used to weld things to it):
It would potentially create more spall within the armor array itself, but most of the fragments of the armor broken off in the armor array would just get stuck inside the armor array (and never get into the crew compartment or go very far from their original position in the array).
The bits that get pulled along are in the accompanying image to that one, where the green parts at the top and bottom get tugged along even though they aren’t directly hit by the penetrator.
The thing is, in that array would the Yellow area would represent the backplate?, if so i dont see how the Integrated spall liner would have affect in game, as the penetration is calculated just by the last plate already, so it wouldnt really be able to “absorbe” any shock that is generated in that plate itself.
The absorption IRL would have the effect of lessening the amount of spall generated, and in game this could be implemented by lowering the number of spall fragments generated and lowering the angle of the spall cone (maybe not as much as the curtain liners, since there isn’t anything I could find on the comparative effectiveness of the Abrams’ specific liner to the traditional style, but a lowering in general would be accurate).