I also love the Abrams especially the M1A1 with 5 sec reload at 11.3 putting it with an F5E is a really good lineup but afterwards is complete garbage.
I don’t know if Gaijin intentionally made the turret ring much weaker on the SEPV2,SEP,M1A2 than the ones on the M1A1s.
Aren’t they the same?
Absolutely not.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1e5wr2f/why_did_the_first_m1_have_better_turret_ring_than/?rdt=61763
well damn
“Muh Abrams is fine” ,“Skill issue” ,“It’s the player’s fault” ,“You just want the Abrams to be invincible”.
Crazy how they say the same thing over and over again.
Maybe, JUST maybe, they’re onto something.
Idk what that something might be though…
He’s not wrong though. I’ve seen genuine concerns regarding US vehicles only for them to be disregarded and ridiculed under the veil of “skill issue”, “muh abrams” , etc.
It gets quite annoying because as soon as someone starts bringing up the abrams in the context of it getting a “buff”, some mf who has nothing better to do posts a bingo card (you know exactly what I’m talking about) which derails the entire topic.
But this wouldn’t be an issue if specific people (you know the ones) stopped posting low iq opinions.
edit: getting off topic, but you get the point
No, T-80U doesn’t need to move down. It’s still perfectly playable at its BR and some people even consider it a better 3rd spawn than the T-72B3 in a 12.0 lineup.
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Mmh 🤔
The T-64s has great turret protection in its respective br, it’s almost as good as Chieftain Mk10’s and trading fire in a hull down position seemingly not very risky. Only thing that could reliably pen you through the turret is Sabra.
if the american mains could read they’d be really upset with you rn
No turret ring is invincible, but buffing it to 200mm of protection would help alot against light vehicles, that’s why they’ve been saying but we can’t forget about no hull improvements whatsoever from the base M1 to the SEPV2.
If only autocannon vehicles at top tier weren’t a dying breed. Buffing the armor there won’t really help you much in most engagements. I’d say that changing the placement of the hydraulic pump would be a much better buff, but I rarely even see that being talked about.
Nah
And the T-series aren’t? I have surely 1-2 shot killed a lot of them today.
2A7s and Strv 122s make up the top 5 MBTs by a longshot. 6-9 is the Type 10, TKX, SEPv1 and BVM in any order really.
With how many 2S38s/BMP-2Ms you see running around? it would be a massive help for all Abrams especially during sales.
Although yeah the M1/IPM1/M1A1 would benefit most from it.
So you saying that you’d take a SEPV1 which is exactly like the SEPV2 but without the add-on side armor over a BVM?
Pre turret basket/vertical drive nerf? Yes, every time any day of the week.
Post turret basket/vertical drive nerf? Still yes, but not as massively yes as before.
Imo the reduced mobility from the 4t of mostly useless side ERA just ruins the SEPv2 for me.
You do realize that the SEPV1 is weaker than the M1A1 at a higher BR right?
Nah i hate the feeling of getting cripled by literally anything.
Sure, I still did pretty well in it whenever I took it out.
It’s widely known that M1A1 is borderline overpowered at 11.3, especially pre nerf. So no shot a lot of people did/do well in it.
Whenever I shoot an Abrams it either dies in 1 shot or gets crippled, whenever I shoot a BVM it dies in 1 shot or gets crippled.
For me there really just isn’t much of a difference when facing them. And when playing them I prefer the active advantages of the Abrams over the Passive advantages of the BVM.
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