Most capable nation for ground?

Tiger ll is a one shot kill from every angle.

What about the Sprut? Not to mention the BMP-2M as well.

But is still pretty behind in terms of Top Tier abilities/models/ect,… but can’t be fixed, because France does have a law for 50 years of Secrecy (minimum)

i meant france

thats objectively wrong, is it vulnerable from the sides? yes the frontal armor works well enough and it has a great cannon with great reload and good mobility

Theres reason jumbo 76 sits at such high BR.

It’s because jumbo users aren’t as dumb as average tiger user

I played my fair share of tigers, nowadays im playing us 5.7.

The 75mm jumbo can dominate tiger Is just by the grace of stab and being able to reliably bounce the short 88.

I honestly believe if 76mm jumbo was at 5.7, it would be absolutely cracked and its better to have one tank suffer at ridiculous BR than tk have entire BR range suffer from it.

Yeah, but I don’t see top tier as the end of the game, and France still has a lot of room for top tier expansion. But everything after rank 1 and before top tier are insanely fun.

I never said it should be 5.7 or lower than 6.0.

75mm one is fine at it’s BR but 76mm one isn’t. Any 6.7 or even 6.3 tanks can easily destroy it.

185mm in the front doesn’t hold up against the majority of targets, and because of the ready rack any penetrating shot is going to ammo rack it and there is no way to hide this weakspot, and from the sides and rear there is almost zero protection.

Nice Reddit take, Tigers just aren’t that good, the fact they are at 6.0 is crazy enough when you objectively look at what they are working with, and the limitations of the AP launchers blocking depression or how Gaijin artificially nerfed them with custom ammo placement.

and it should remain that way. again, better to have one tank suffer than entire BR range. Remember tigers and panthers got moved up to 6.0, ergo 76mm jumbo at 6.0 would be like 5.7 with the old BRs.

Panther is at 6.0, and it and the 76 Jumbo are surprisingly comparable in terms of mobility, with the Jumbo having a bit better PtW ratio, while the Jumbo has much better turret armor, better reload, better gun (HE filler > total pen), and of course it has the stabilizer.

The MG weak port exists but it isn’t any easier to hit than the Panther’s turret cheeks (and the Panther has an MG weak spot too).

The Jumbo’s UFP is also a bit better than the Panther, Jumbo provides about 170mm of protection against 76mm M79 shot at 500m, Panther provides about 160mm with the same round and distance. Though to be honest this different isn’t really noticeable in game.