More scratched up vehicles

Ok, why ? I have noticed that some have decided to take vehicles appearance, including crate skins I loved, and scratch up, add filth, and rust to.

This really infuriates me. Especially when it involves paid content. How does this non optional visual vandalism add value to the business model ?

Make trashing the vehicle appearance OPTIONAL.

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I wish they would stop changing the skins, I’ve got a couple that got changed from “semi-historical” to “user generated” which counts as fictional, so I cant use them or it turns on all the body pillows and junk. It’s bloody annoying and needles to say I will not be purchasing anymore marketplace skins.

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What blows my mind is who at the snail thinks it’s a good idea to make people feel bad about their vehicles? Seriously this is good business??

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Example?

huh? Wasnt it that you can use YOUR things all you want, they just dont show you other`s things in battles when the setting is turned?

Unless they changed it, it keeps trying to force on the option to see fictional. I also want my cammo being shown to others to at least match the terrain to make me a little less visible to CAS, so no default olive drab in the desert etc, and I assume it displays default camo if you have a fictional one on and they have it turned off.

I do believe so, yes. But then it comes to two ways to deal with that - either force all content to be shown to all players or like nowadays.

Yeah, I think it’s fine the way it is, it’s just annoying when you buy a white semi historical cammo to not stand out in snow maps, then they change it to fictional so if you use it CAS see you as a big dark dot. Or you forget one vehicle in you line up has something fictional on it, pull it and all of a sudden teleport into an anime convention.
And at the end of the day if someone pays for a historical/ semi-historical skin it needs to stay as that or they should be refunded.
As for the cammo condition they could leave the pristine version as default and then add the rust etc onto the condition slider so those that want to can alter it (if they have premium) and people that bought it for the pristine version can keep it.

I still don’t know exactly what you mean…

Can you show examples of the issue?

I just double checked, I made sure I had “except fictional” on for all my game modes then took a “user generated” plane skin into Air Arcade and it automatically switched the option to “any” for arcade

xD what a joke, why

Sorry, console. Can’t take console screen shots. But one example is Bell AH-1G 773rd Marine crate skin. So since you asked, why can’t scratches and fatigue be optional for premium users? Why should someone else’s aesthetic be forced on us? Why wouldn’t it make good business sense to monetize the option?

I completely hate that Gaijin changes the vehicle textures so that they are completely scratched up and make my skins look ugly. And why does Gaijin need to lock up the really cool Shermans and Tigers behind a paywall instead of letting us customize our own tanks, like a Sherman in Europe (Easy Eight Sherman)

I’m a skin creator myself, and have the privilege of by now having three skins in the marketplace.

The skins in the marketplace are added “as is”, so if the creator has more or less weathering on a skin, that’s how it ends up. Meaning it’s the descision of the skin creator how weathered it is.

Note that weathering is an important, but also tedious part of skinning, and of course there’s different tastes as to how strong one wants to do his weathering effects. For my personal taste, the default skins are often too much weathered , and I usually make them a little less weathered. Skins with very little or even no weathering then on the other hand look very unrealistic and lifeless, so it’s really a matter of balance:

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Default:
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My skin:
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Note also that for aircraft there is no “camouflage condition” slider, so no adjustable weathering. What you see is what you get.

I got that one too, but doesn’t look to me it was changed since it was introduced:

Actually, for my personal taste, that’s one of them that looks too clean, too perfect, too new and thus a bit lifeless, like a plastic toy.

Interesting, I would like to know more about this :)

Well, it’s not something that can be explained in a few words. I’ve been repainting since 25 years now, starting in FS9, so I learned a lot of techniques that work for myself.

Today I use Gimp as Photoshop replacement for the actual textures, and Inkscape for vector graphics that I then use in Gimp (e.g. for marking, roundels, stencils,… but also lines and rivets layers - the most tedious part of thew whole process).

This in lieu of photoshop?
https://www.gimp.org/

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Yep, works very well!

When you start at zero with skinning, best start with a multilayered template to learn how to work with those. There’s some pretty good ones on live.warthunder.com

If you also need to create a multilayered template yourself, that’s quite a bit of work and not very recommended for a beginner.

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Thanks I will look into it, you have inspired me 😁