Added it to the report.
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I’ve updated the post about the PL-12 family of missile.
I’ve tried to take your comment as well as the info on the chinese missile thread into acount.
Hit me up if you want any modification for it.
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R-33S was not active homing its a common myth but in reality its just a mid life upgrade essentially while waiting for the active R-37(M) to enter service
Yep
If you liked this thread i’ve made a similar one for IR missile with IRCCM
You can find it on:
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I’ve made a google sheets for all the values of the missile in the thread.
If you want to make direct comparaison between missile then it’s easier that way.
There’s also fox 2 missile from my other thread if you want to compare thoses.
Regarding the overload of the R-77.77-1, their maneuverability due to the grid rudders is higher than that of traditional ones. Also, the R-37M overload was never indicated anywhere. It’s just someone’s guess
Regarding AIM-260 it is speculated to use AESA seeker.
R-77 overload is at least 40G
R-77M still in development
So some questions (and I am by far no expert so I welcome any corrections) but shouldn’t the AIM-120Cs have lower maneuverability due to having a full clipped fins set up? It was my understanding that the A/B have better maneuverability since their is not clipped.
As for the AAM-4s I would put them at 35 instead of 30 if we compare it to the AIM-120C
AAM-4s have clipped forward fins but the aft fins are not clipped and seem wider and larger wouldn’t this allow for better maneuverability? Ofc none of this is backed by real data it’s just me curious that’s all.
AAM-4
AIM-120C
I don’t
AIM-120C center of gravity / lift changes allow it to handle higher AoA with more stability which actually increases maximum permissible overload iirc but we aren’t sure what the maximum overload is.
This is especially important on the AIM-120C-5 which has a longer rocket motor and shorter control actuator section.
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I see…that’s interesting to know thanks!
For R-33, it has a 19g maneuverability. I’m guessing the R-37 will have similar maneuverability to the R-33.
From “Основы авиационной техники и практической аэродинамики”
Personally, I think it’s possible that R-33/37 uses combined plane maneuverability, which would give it 26g maneuverability.
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worth noting this is a university document for students and shouldn’t be taken as absolute fact, for example it lists the R-27 as 30g despite better primary sources stating 35g not saying to completely disregard this document just to take it with some salt
These ballpark figures give us a good idea of how they should perform though. Target overload is too deceptive regarding performance because it factors altitude, speed, etc into the equation and maximum overload doesn’t consider the missiles’ energy state but gives us better relative performance comparison.
Well, first of all, here the range is indicated on the R-33C. R-37M is of a different design. And it can also hit highly maneuverable targets. I assume an overload of at least 30.
Moreover, the R-33, the early versions differ from the later ones
