Modern ARH (FOX 3) Missile - History, Performance & Discussion

its supposed to have an integrated booster as well which, after burning, leaves the ram combustor part empty to do ramjet things

nah not just supposed to. it has it.
you can tell that it has one from launch pictures where it has a big exhaust flame reminiscent of an AMRAAM or any other solid rocket booster type exhaust flame. Additionally there is a video from MBDA showing the meteor in flight(although in what looks like IR) and its exhaust flame and plume is much smaller.
Why? well the missile needs to get to a certain speed for the ramjet to turn on and work properly. as most launches aren’t going to be at mach 2, you’ll need a booster.
as it doesnt have anything to jettison, it has to be integrated in the missile

oh yea, and mbda literally says

Following the boost phasethe missile successfully transitioned to its ramjet operationand accelerated to its operational speed.

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There is also R-27EA as an early ARH missile for Russian aircraft

I provided Adrien weeks ago two papers on the Meteor which confirmed Boost motor on the Meteor. One of the paper is the motor manufacturer paper.

Wtf you make me look like the bad guy.
I was even the one to tell you that the meteor had a primary booster to propulse it to MACH 2/3 where the Ramjet is the most efficient. I just forget to add it in the thread lol.
PS: Don’t take it seriously, it’s just banter

I eddited it to add the booster on the Meteor.

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You can find this missile in the main post just under “Russia” if you want information about it.
Click on “>Spoiler” to make the post about the R-27EA appear

Aim-120C5 porpulsion is about boost:16.7kN for 7.75 sec & sustain: 3.37kN for 20 sec. Dont ask where i get this information. It’s just a guesstimate.

That’s not accurate at all. Orbital ATK (manufacturer of the motor) has stated the performances of the AIM-120C-5 as being a boost-only motor. There is no sustainer.

Your thrust estimates would put it at 1/2 the total impulse of AIM-54 and missile is 1/3rd the weight…

My bad, it was C-7. But anyways, everything is classified.

Even if it’s classified, we know the propellant weight and it would imply that America has a propellant with efficiency not mathematically possible without some level of magical properties to it.

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Also confirmed in the Tornado F.3 manuals;
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It does flip flop on being B/S and B/G, I think thats mainly because the other section referring to it as B/S are for the 120B and weren’t updated when 120C5 was adopted;
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Trajectory shaping is mentioned in that manual. Do you mind adding that as a source indicating that multiple countries refer to “lofting” as “trajectory shaping”?

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/qXZgF5fLYEAe

Added it to the report.

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I’ve updated the post about the PL-12 family of missile.
I’ve tried to take your comment as well as the info on the chinese missile thread into acount.
Hit me up if you want any modification for it.

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R-33S was not active homing its a common myth but in reality its just a mid life upgrade essentially while waiting for the active R-37(M) to enter service

Yep

If you liked this thread i’ve made a similar one for IR missile with IRCCM
You can find it on:

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I’ve made a google sheets for all the values of the missile in the thread.
If you want to make direct comparaison between missile then it’s easier that way.
There’s also fox 2 missile from my other thread if you want to compare thoses.

Regarding the overload of the R-77.77-1, their maneuverability due to the grid rudders is higher than that of traditional ones. Also, the R-37M overload was never indicated anywhere. It’s just someone’s guess

Regarding AIM-260 it is speculated to use AESA seeker.
R-77 overload is at least 40G