Mitsubishi F-2

From what I’ve heard, AAM-4B should be basically immune to ground clutter and also very hard to notch, even with chaff, very resistant to jamming in general. We will probably never see it this strong in the game, but Gaijin is known to add stuff artificially nerfed.

High resistance to ground clutter and increased range should be enough for the F-2. Keep in mind I only propose this because the F-2 will have a fairly limited loadout compared to other advanced jets such as the Su-30, Typhoons, F/A-18 etc…

I agree. We are fortunate in that the AAM-4B (and AAM-5) is still an option to make the F-2 competitive for a while.

I forget though, the AAM-4B is also available for the F-15J(M) or is it only after the AESA upgrade?

Anything with the correct Rails, wiring and J/ARG-1 can use AAM-4(B).

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F-15J(M) would be able to get the full range of current Japanese missiles including AAM-4B and AAM-5B as well.

For F-2 though if they gave it AAM-5 they would already shoot past what’s used on any service F-2, since these are only used by ADTW so far. It’d be really insulting to have us wait 2+ years for the F-2, only for them to implement an aircraft past service specs that is looking increasingly like it’d be worse than top tier anyways, considering there is no way AAM-5 would be implemented without equivalents for everyone else.

I still don’t get how they managed to skip the initial F-2. As an SARH carrier aircraft it could’ve been the perfect AESA testbed for them too…

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Good to know

Yup AAM-5 would harm us more than it would help us. However there is a unique opportunity with AAM-4B if they keep it exclusive to the F-2 (for now anyway) and let it be the one of, if not the, strongest ARH to give it something worth having.

Then again, for us some of us Japan mains, we just want F-2, we don’t care if it’s top of the top or not.

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Hey, in this thread, only MY mode is mentioned for F-2 CCV, but no one is considering MLC mode? Or is it assumed that it will always be implemented in MLC mode with no mode switching?
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Just my opinion, but MLC mode seems to be the addition of the aircraft automatically deploying trailing-edge flaps to increase lift during maneuvers, similar to Su-27/30 and F-18(?), as opposed to the F-16A/C that only use leading edge flaps (or trailing-edge takeoff/landing flaps manually).

I’m not sure how useful decoupled yaw (DY) mode would be, since it seems to just be turning the aircraft in a circle without the need to roll. For example, if you’ve ever played Ace Combat and yawed in either direction, the plane will stay level, but in reality the aircraft should roll. For the F-2, the elevators on the main wings in DY mode will adjust to keep the aircraft from rolling during a yaw. (That’s how I understand it from the pictures, I could be wrong.)

Technically you can already do this in War Thunder by using the mouse aim to turn in one direction and manually rolling to keep your aircraft level, DY mode just makes it automatic.

The last mode I struggle to understand is ME (maneuver enhancement). It seems to take aspects of the MLC mode, but in the bottom left box in the image, the elevators are pointing upwards, and the trailing-edge flaps are also pointing upwards?

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The F-16s do automatically deploy flaps above 25 degrees of AoA both IRL and in game as part of MLC. However the deployment is limited to < 3 degrees, so it’s hard to notice in most scenarios.

What separates ME from MLC, is that where as MLC uses flaperon deployment to increase lift and decrease positive pitch impulse as a response to high AoA conditions. ME uses flaperon deployment to cause a positive pitch impulse. Basically it makes the plane response faster to being told to pitch up, as the plane starts to change it’s direction of travel as soon as a pitch response is requested, as opposed to conventional elevator responses which need to generate AoA before the direction of travel is altered.

From footage analysis, ME actually may have a worse maximum turn rate then conventional MLC. However it allows for much faster responses and superior energy retention due to it’s decreases AoA.

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Excellent, if Gaijin believes the table in the second image, it looks like MLC mode will be implemented with always-on operation.

I’d have agreed a year ago, but now after telling us off for so long because “F-2 is too advanced” it better be the best or I will gather the french at my nearest Gaijin office.

You have been warned Gaijin...

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