More oever, since we got version after Sniper XR inroduction all photos prior to like 2018 are kind of irrelevant because they would refer to older model anyway
There is evidence, it’s the ASM markings. What we don’t have is proof, like a direct confirmation of the loadout.
For the MRMs we don’t even have such evidence, since the only line on the main electrical panel that could say MRM could also say TER, which I’d say is more likely since it is a confirmed loadout.
Hmm.
It’s not evidence.
So your interpretation is not evidence, And what are those long markings next to “TER” that you see?
A bug report with no documentation explaining the MRIU and insufficient translation is suddenly approved.Then, bug reports that claim the bug report is wrong are demanded to have further evidence, military secrets.
There are no moderators who understand Japanese. It is a language barrier.
This might be a translation error. In my replies I used “evidence” (something supporting a theory) and “proof” (something supporting a fact).
The theory is that ASMs can be used on the inner stations, so the fact that the have ASM markings on the unique, not shared panels used at the front of these pylons is evidence, but not proof.
Those appear to be longer Japanese text, unlike the MRM markings that are written as roman letters “MRM” on other stations. Since fuel tanks are a confirmed use exclusive to the pylons, same as this marking, that is my theory for them.
It could also be a marking for rockets, which is also Japanese text on other pylons, but there is another marking of Japanese text much closer to where the rocket markings are on the other pylons, so I’m leaning towards the first idea.
But also as I said before these are theories only until there is more clear images. I see it as the most likely, but not as a fact.
Yeah, that’s pretty silly, but I think we can do some interesting things with this logic. Hold on a second.
Concerning the bug report about the excess datalink channel go read this bug report instead
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/SctMaSyU7xAq
Also the wiring for the 2 inner pylons for the fuel tanks are also wired to accommodate asm 1,2 and 3 but is never used in service
Those 2 pylons to my understanding cannot mount aam4 or aim 7
@WreckingAres283
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/SctMaSyU7xAq
A report correcting a bug report that misunderstood the number of units and channels regarding the number of F-2 datalink channels was closed without any response.
I posted a comment asking for a reason why it was closed, but the bug report manager deleted my comment asking for a reason and then responded with a reason why it was closed. Is it a legitimate operational practice to delete a comment asking for a reason why it was closed?
To begin with, the number of MIRU units in the relevant document does not refer to the number of MIRU units on the F-2, and it was pointed out in the immediately preceding comment that MIRUs are not datalink managers. What exactly is going on with this?
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- If you want to counter a Bug Report (correctly understood or not) prior the Devs on interpretation, you have to provide own evidence as far as I am aware to make a based counter argument, as it may also be possible that there is further evidence provide in the background; let it be Mods, external Researchers, Devs, DMM or whoever.
I’ve yet to see any actual prove for DL by anyone personally, two can be true or not - F-15J(M), may require some research on that matter as well, but I can’t be borthered to search for smth thats 85% likely to be classified or export restricted.
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Thank you for your thoughtful response. I am sorry that I addressed it to the wrong person.
It’s a painstaking task to have to make a well-reasoned rebuttal to a bug report that has a wrong premise…
Information about the JSDF is hard to find, even for Japanese people, so it’s a problem for better or worse.
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I don’t intend to scatter AAM-4 like Phoenixes, so I don’t think the reduction in the number of data link channels to two is a big problem. I think.
However, I thought there was a big problem with the series of bug report exchanges.
So, is there no remedy when unsubstantiated reports on performance parameters that are not available are accepted ?
Guess not, this is just a one-party show. It’s difficult to reverse an adopted report unless the whole community stands together.
If we keep ignoring these nerfs, F2A will become garbage in the official release. Anyway this is just a game🥲
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no
No what
The MRIU is the unit that provides the missile with control signals, power control, status management, launch, and other controls until the missile is launched. It then sends back the status of the missile to the CIU. This is installed at every station where air-to-air missiles are mounted.
Yes. “It will be installed in every station that will carry air-to-air missiles.” Whether in the wings or in the weapon bay.
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA255714.pdf page 58 6.2.4.1.3
F-16 Stores Management System - Elbit Systems of America
MRIU to perform DL? Is it on the J/ARG-1?
It is just a unit that manages the status of the missile and performs the process up to launch.
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Yes, that’s for sure. …If Gaijin doesn’t admit it.
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Yeah, all known sources testify to four ASMs
What’s the point of discussing the correctness of ASMs if in the game they are useless garbage that doesn’t even work on ships? If the snail doesn’t care, then why should we?
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