There’s not that much unknown about the F-2 ADTW’s equipment though. It’s not getting GCS-1s and there hasn’t been much (if any) new and significant ASM-1+2 information. AAM-3s are just AIM-9Ms with minor changes. The AIM-7Ms already existed.
The F-2 is the only one that kinda changed, but even then - new information can always be bug reported and characteristics corrected. Nothing about its armament says that it’s too strong at 13.0 either.
The whole spiel about “too strong to be added” was just wrong.
Also what’s with the random flagged and hidden posts?
Someone reported a bunch of my messages, no idea why.
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You and I have hindsight bias. We looked things up for free. We took extra time.
We cannot apply our knowledge and assume others were able to learn the same as quickly.
It started on trailer day and hasn’t stopped. Very annoying.
To be fair suggestions for the early service F-2 / XF-2, which would have even slightly worse equipment than the ADTW currently at 13.0 (worse radar, no JDAM) were passed to the devs even before the F-16C was added.
So by that, they should’ve known, unless they didn’t actually read the passed suggestions.
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My original XF-2A suggestion was passed in 2022 around the time when gen 4s were just rumors so they have had plenty of time to know about it.
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Suggestions for the F-2s and XF-2 have been up for a long time. It’s not like trying to dig up info on the F-2 itself.
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this one was shot down fast
Same game where Challenger 3 exists
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I don’t think they’ll ever let a suggestion like HMD pass on the issue site. Perhaps someone could make something like a suggestion post for it instead here on the forums (if not done already). It’s worked for things like getting the Harrier T.10 its BOL pods when Gaijin were adamant not to give them. With enough support they’ll have to respond with something other than citing historical accuracy.
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True. Would say making a suggestion for it would be wise.
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I have many things i could say about gaijin’s insane double standards, but…
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/0lGisVepBBUr
Oh well here’s a bug report which is more accurate and will make the F-2 even more powerful then HMD ever would.
Somehow no one thought to bug report this before, there appears to have been a misunderstanding where we thought it only applied to the datalink tranceiver, as we assumed the AAM-4’s seeker wasn’t capable of it due to not being an AESA, but it still uses gallium arsenide FETs instead of like a traveling wave tube, so its still possible, so i have no idea why we thought it wasn’t, especially with multiple official sources stating it as being so, but… who knows, here it is now.
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If sure of ASM, can be sure of MRM, but it seems like the logic is difficult for them.
The ASMs/MRMs have different electrical connectors, just because something can use one does not mean it can use others.
The thing is, while it does appear that the markings for MRMs are there, and that the electrical connector does appear to be there. We do not have up close crystal clear images of them confirming them to be the exact same like we do for the ASM stuff.
If we had as perfectly clear images for MRMs as we do ASMs, i’d agree, but we don’t, so for now it’s kind of just “it looks like they should”, which is not and should not be taken as 100% certain proof.
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Yet another post spreading indirect hate against the Kikka in an F-2 topic.
Prove that F-2A was never put into service, or prove Kikka AND Yak-141’s service record, otherwise your post is nonsense.
There is no hypocrisy.
Incomplete prototypes are not combat-ready prototypes nor service aircraft, and service aircraft are not prototypes.
Prototypes are not service aircraft, and service aircraft are not prototypes.
The ADTW XF-2s are literally prototypes that are service aircraft.
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In the end it’s not a real wiring diagram, it’s a matter of appearance. And they will not be the same. The rear of the STA-5/7 has different panel lines for fuel. However, since rocket can be installed, there is a reason for this. You should ask DMM to provide you with photos.
Actually tired of the bug report managers.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/V0OsYYhR4M8z
I give up, if they continue to be how they are you guys aren’t getting any more bug reports from me, it’s clearly not worth the time investment with how bug reporting is.
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Post amended to be more specific in the text.
For air and ground there are 3 rules that have never been broken.
1- Service aircraft can get service equipment.
2- Combat ready prototypes can get what they were tested with.
3- Incomplete prototypes can get what their service intended for them.
There are zero double standards for any of those 3 categories.
Comparing any of the categories to another category is a post of bad faith, no matter the anger behind the post.
If you want to compare F-2A to anything, compare it to F-4J, which has its service-tested HMS.
Granted, service-tested is the operative term so if you really want HMS on service F-2A you need service-tested example.
As for combat prototypes… F-20A? Can’t think of what F-20A has that was only tested on it… maybe its AIM-7s? Either way that’d be a similar standard since F-2A ADTW is a combat-ready prototype [if a prototype] and not in the Kikka unfinished prototype category.
Also, you need to cite other bug reports when you claim precedent.
That’s how I got 2x1 inch flares to be classed as large-caliber.
When my AN/ALE-40 bug report failed, I cited it inside my Gripen flare size bug report as a link.
In the end, 2x1 inch flares were made large caliber instead of Gripen getting nerfed.
Rocket mounting: Yes TER mounting: Yes. Those markings are as shown. So what do we see between them? There should be GBU and MRM markings there xD
