I’m working on a report for that right now, but since it’s based on likely technical capability, not confirmed loadouts of the F-2 it’s difficult and there is a high chance it will still be rejected by moderation due to relying more heavily on images than written sources.
But even if it passes it is a report that heavily relies on subjective dev judgement, and for all we know from the earlier leaked model they already considered and rejected the idea on their own, so there is another very high chance that nothing from the report will be new information to them and it will be rejected.
Though I’d be very interested if they have any specific reasons for discarding the idea that we might not know of.
Didn’t one of the Tornados get extra JDAM pylons not seen on any airframe IRL or any stores diagrams based purely on pictures of the pylons? I think it’s good enough to get inboard AAM-4s because there seems to be the markings and connection points present on the pylons.
Okay thanks to @WreckingAres283 finding the folder which had the F-2 upgrade doc talking about provisions for HMD (I lost it in the several gigabyte big file dump, lmao), i’m expediting my plans for the HMD bug report from tomorrow, it’s now on the list I have slated to do today.
I hope it comes and with a custom model for the Shimadzu HMD. It’s a really cool design and more interesting than the JHMCS, but I doubt it will happen.
Funnily, this provision isn’t actually for the Shimadzu HMD I found. This is either for the new HMD shimadzu started work on in 2016 for the F-X, or for JHMCS, it doesn’t specify. However the timeline does not support it being that one sadly.
There were early plans for the F-2 to get it, just they were never realized. It was also considered for use on the F-15J but was not accepted for unknown reasons, with the shimadzu produced JHMCS variant being chosen instead.
So, uh, we have a slight issue with the F-2 ADTW, I was writing the bug report for the TT one and uh, both have the OFP upgrade, so uh, how do we want me to move forward with bug reports for it
report for removal the J/AAQ-2, JDAMs, swap it to the J/APG-1
It gets AAM-4/Bs and in the future AAM-5s, also maybe HMD if gaijin is generous.
Gaijin want to keep BR of F-2 ADTW around 13.0. So, HMD - maybe, but AAM-4/4B/5/5B - definitely no. Also, removing of almost all it’s ground ordnance is not great
There’s not that much unknown about the F-2 ADTW’s equipment though. It’s not getting GCS-1s and there hasn’t been much (if any) new and significant ASM-1+2 information. AAM-3s are just AIM-9Ms with minor changes. The AIM-7Ms already existed.
The F-2 is the only one that kinda changed, but even then - new information can always be bug reported and characteristics corrected. Nothing about its armament says that it’s too strong at 13.0 either.
The whole spiel about “too strong to be added” was just wrong.
You and I have hindsight bias. We looked things up for free. We took extra time.
We cannot apply our knowledge and assume others were able to learn the same as quickly.
It started on trailer day and hasn’t stopped. Very annoying.
To be fair suggestions for the early service F-2 / XF-2, which would have even slightly worse equipment than the ADTW currently at 13.0 (worse radar, no JDAM) were passed to the devs even before the F-16C was added.
So by that, they should’ve known, unless they didn’t actually read the passed suggestions.
I don’t think they’ll ever let a suggestion like HMD pass on the issue site. Perhaps someone could make something like a suggestion post for it instead here on the forums (if not done already). It’s worked for things like getting the Harrier T.10 its BOL pods when Gaijin were adamant not to give them. With enough support they’ll have to respond with something other than citing historical accuracy.
