Can’t find these bugreports. Also, do you have plans for bugreport about AAM-4 on inner pylons? Maybe even HMD? Maybe your reports will have more sources, than existing
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Working on them rn, they’re not up yet.
I do not intend on bug reporting AAM-4s on inner pylons, given the accuracy and specificity otherwise shown in the loadout, with ASMs on the inner most ones, gaijin seems quite sure they can’t use MRMs specifically, and i do not have any higher sources then anyone else for it. HMD i might take a swing at but is unlikely to come.
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I’m working on a report for that right now, but since it’s based on likely technical capability, not confirmed loadouts of the F-2 it’s difficult and there is a high chance it will still be rejected by moderation due to relying more heavily on images than written sources.
But even if it passes it is a report that heavily relies on subjective dev judgement, and for all we know from the earlier leaked model they already considered and rejected the idea on their own, so there is another very high chance that nothing from the report will be new information to them and it will be rejected.
Though I’d be very interested if they have any specific reasons for discarding the idea that we might not know of.
Didn’t one of the Tornados get extra JDAM pylons not seen on any airframe IRL or any stores diagrams based purely on pictures of the pylons? I think it’s good enough to get inboard AAM-4s because there seems to be the markings and connection points present on the pylons.
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Okay thanks to @WreckingAres283 finding the folder which had the F-2 upgrade doc talking about provisions for HMD (I lost it in the several gigabyte big file dump, lmao), i’m expediting my plans for the HMD bug report from tomorrow, it’s now on the list I have slated to do today.
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I hope it comes and with a custom model for the Shimadzu HMD. It’s a really cool design and more interesting than the JHMCS, but I doubt it will happen.
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Funnily, this provision isn’t actually for the Shimadzu HMD I found. This is either for the new HMD shimadzu started work on in 2016 for the F-X, or for JHMCS, it doesn’t specify. However the timeline does not support it being that one sadly.
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I wonder what the Shimadzu HMD was for then. Maybe the F-15J before JHMCS was chosen or perhaps a prototype for the EJ Kai.
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There were early plans for the F-2 to get it, just they were never realized. It was also considered for use on the F-15J but was not accepted for unknown reasons, with the shimadzu produced JHMCS variant being chosen instead.
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So, uh, we have a slight issue with the F-2 ADTW, I was writing the bug report for the TT one and uh, both have the OFP upgrade, so uh, how do we want me to move forward with bug reports for it
- report for removal the J/AAQ-2, JDAMs, swap it to the J/APG-1
- It gets AAM-4/Bs and in the future AAM-5s, also maybe HMD if gaijin is generous.
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Gaijin want to keep BR of F-2 ADTW around 13.0. So, HMD - maybe, but AAM-4/4B/5/5B - definitely no. Also, removing of almost all it’s ground ordnance is not great
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Oh well, i’ll worry about that stuff later, for now, here’s your guys expedited F-2 HMD bug report with a primary source.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/qanmJH2YaIfV
Still have my other like 4 bug reports coming, just decided to knock this one out first
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There’s not that much unknown about the F-2 ADTW’s equipment though. It’s not getting GCS-1s and there hasn’t been much (if any) new and significant ASM-1+2 information. AAM-3s are just AIM-9Ms with minor changes. The AIM-7Ms already existed.
The F-2 is the only one that kinda changed, but even then - new information can always be bug reported and characteristics corrected. Nothing about its armament says that it’s too strong at 13.0 either.
The whole spiel about “too strong to be added” was just wrong.
Also what’s with the random flagged and hidden posts?
Someone reported a bunch of my messages, no idea why.
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You and I have hindsight bias. We looked things up for free. We took extra time.
We cannot apply our knowledge and assume others were able to learn the same as quickly.
It started on trailer day and hasn’t stopped. Very annoying.
To be fair suggestions for the early service F-2 / XF-2, which would have even slightly worse equipment than the ADTW currently at 13.0 (worse radar, no JDAM) were passed to the devs even before the F-16C was added.
So by that, they should’ve known, unless they didn’t actually read the passed suggestions.
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My original XF-2A suggestion was passed in 2022 around the time when gen 4s were just rumors so they have had plenty of time to know about it.
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Suggestions for the F-2s and XF-2 have been up for a long time. It’s not like trying to dig up info on the F-2 itself.
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