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Got 4 bug reports cooking today! Be sure to look out for them so we can get the F-2 even stronger:
1: J/AAQ-2 does not remain tracking objects when the radar loses lock
2: J/APG-2 is lacking redundant slaving to J/AAQ-2 when it loses lock
3: J/AAQ-2 does not provide datalink updates when the J/APG-1’s deviation exceeds its own
4: J/AAQ-2 does not not provide datalink updates with the J/APG-2 turned off
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kinda off-topic, but China also still don’t have 14.0, I think if it aligns well with the “Leaklist”, maybe F-2 eventually gets an HMD for balance purposes, and China gets J-10B/C so it can fight on par with other 14.0.
But, worse case scenario, the F-2 is just glorified JF-17.
Just red your reports on AAM-4, very well written and as far I understand actually passed moderation, any updates on that front? It already was 9 month and as far as I know AAM-4 wasn’t changed a bit since then
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Sadly there has been no update on them, i was hoping we’d see something this patch, but no word so far… TBF they are things which require pretty major back end work to implement, so they’re probably pretty low down on gaijin’s priority list, as sad as it is they didn’t get around to them for this update.
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Well, from what i understood it suppoded to be a pretty major buff overall so maybe we would see at least some of it implemeted since AIM-120C made it way and now it’s not gonna be OP. After all it is only first out of probably usual 3 dev updates
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Yeah I really thought Japan and China would both get a 14.0 this update but gaijin thinks otherwise I guess
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Can’t find these bugreports. Also, do you have plans for bugreport about AAM-4 on inner pylons? Maybe even HMD? Maybe your reports will have more sources, than existing
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Working on them rn, they’re not up yet.
I do not intend on bug reporting AAM-4s on inner pylons, given the accuracy and specificity otherwise shown in the loadout, with ASMs on the inner most ones, gaijin seems quite sure they can’t use MRMs specifically, and i do not have any higher sources then anyone else for it. HMD i might take a swing at but is unlikely to come.
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I’m working on a report for that right now, but since it’s based on likely technical capability, not confirmed loadouts of the F-2 it’s difficult and there is a high chance it will still be rejected by moderation due to relying more heavily on images than written sources.
But even if it passes it is a report that heavily relies on subjective dev judgement, and for all we know from the earlier leaked model they already considered and rejected the idea on their own, so there is another very high chance that nothing from the report will be new information to them and it will be rejected.
Though I’d be very interested if they have any specific reasons for discarding the idea that we might not know of.
Didn’t one of the Tornados get extra JDAM pylons not seen on any airframe IRL or any stores diagrams based purely on pictures of the pylons? I think it’s good enough to get inboard AAM-4s because there seems to be the markings and connection points present on the pylons.
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Okay thanks to @WreckingAres283 finding the folder which had the F-2 upgrade doc talking about provisions for HMD (I lost it in the several gigabyte big file dump, lmao), i’m expediting my plans for the HMD bug report from tomorrow, it’s now on the list I have slated to do today.
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I hope it comes and with a custom model for the Shimadzu HMD. It’s a really cool design and more interesting than the JHMCS, but I doubt it will happen.
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Funnily, this provision isn’t actually for the Shimadzu HMD I found. This is either for the new HMD shimadzu started work on in 2016 for the F-X, or for JHMCS, it doesn’t specify. However the timeline does not support it being that one sadly.
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I wonder what the Shimadzu HMD was for then. Maybe the F-15J before JHMCS was chosen or perhaps a prototype for the EJ Kai.
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There were early plans for the F-2 to get it, just they were never realized. It was also considered for use on the F-15J but was not accepted for unknown reasons, with the shimadzu produced JHMCS variant being chosen instead.
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So, uh, we have a slight issue with the F-2 ADTW, I was writing the bug report for the TT one and uh, both have the OFP upgrade, so uh, how do we want me to move forward with bug reports for it
- report for removal the J/AAQ-2, JDAMs, swap it to the J/APG-1
- It gets AAM-4/Bs and in the future AAM-5s, also maybe HMD if gaijin is generous.
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Gaijin want to keep BR of F-2 ADTW around 13.0. So, HMD - maybe, but AAM-4/4B/5/5B - definitely no. Also, removing of almost all it’s ground ordnance is not great
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Oh well, i’ll worry about that stuff later, for now, here’s your guys expedited F-2 HMD bug report with a primary source.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/qanmJH2YaIfV
Still have my other like 4 bug reports coming, just decided to knock this one out first
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There’s not that much unknown about the F-2 ADTW’s equipment though. It’s not getting GCS-1s and there hasn’t been much (if any) new and significant ASM-1+2 information. AAM-3s are just AIM-9Ms with minor changes. The AIM-7Ms already existed.
The F-2 is the only one that kinda changed, but even then - new information can always be bug reported and characteristics corrected. Nothing about its armament says that it’s too strong at 13.0 either.
The whole spiel about “too strong to be added” was just wrong.