I personally don’t think there is need for 6xMRM, same load out as F-15J is enough for most cases. HMD is more of an QoL thing, but with AESA ACM and without AAM-5 it doesn’t really matter. What there should be is IEWS. MAW is kinda new distinctive thing of top tier aircrafts and I think F-2 would benefit from it much more than from HMD and 2 more MRMs
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No further ASM required xD
How exactly is MAW more useful then HMD? especially when trying to defend and fight at the same time.
Also the F-15J does get 6x MRMs, that’s the standard for top tier.
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At 13.7 I agree F-2 can be fine without them once some of the other bugs are fixed like the countermeasures and high speed performance, so it’s not needed for gameplay. I only want it because I believe it is a technical capability the real F-2 would have.
If Gaijin see all the possible sources and reject it, I am still happy they at least got all current evidence and might add it once we get more. Either that, or they might have sources that deny it specifically, which would also be nice to have if those exist.
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As a complement, F-2 has been showing LAMS-7 missile pylons with BRU-47 pylons, and the markings on the LAMS-7 missile pylons confirm that they can mount FOX-1/FOX-3, meaning that it is capable of launching AIM-7M and AAM4, and LAMS-7 missile pylons has been found on pylon 2 and 9, which clarifies that F-2 should have maximum 6 FOX-3s to mount.
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Wow… This is truly the most compelling evidence I’ve seen about the 6x MRM
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That’s quite convincing, indeed.
Wait, 2 and 9? Maybe 2 and 10 - outer wings pylons. Or 5 and 7 - inner pylons. I think we can say, that F-2 can carry AAM-4 on inner pylons, so 6 MRM. If it can also mount AAM-4 on outer pylons, than it’s 8 missiles in total.
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True, I got the number wrong.
We can also remember this photo and see, that “purple area” is pretty much connected with fuel, if this red mark bihind everything else is fuel connector
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In fact, I would rather support such a statement. konngou0224-psnhas already provided a lot of mounting bracket evidence on the 1625th floor, and there are indeed ASM and MRM markings on the inner wing brackets.
Since there has never been a real-world image of STA-5/7 mounted with ASM-2 (as far as I know and have seen), but gaijin still provided the ASM-2 mount for the F-2A.
Why not provide the mounting for the AAM-4?
Also no actual photos mounted in reality (√)
Also marked on the rack (√)
Gaijin: But you can only have ASM, not MRM!It’s really ridiculous.
Seeing is believing.
I don’t understand why gaijin need various professional manuals to prove it—aren’t real photos authoritative enough?
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The sparrows on the external pylon were not wired, they were for demonstration. They were only seen at the initial unveiling of the F-2, with them not being used due to issues over the wing cracking from them. (An issue that was later fixed, however the pylons used by that point were not compatable with MRM racks).
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If that’s the case, I accept it wholeheartedly.
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But what are the sources of these images? Looks like magazine or smth. Can’t we use them?
Curious, they don’t mention AAM-4 on inner pylons, but on outer pylons. But ASMs can be mounted on inner pylons. So, it’s either we use these (if we can), or we use marks on wings. Not both
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These are from the pre-production stage, and show the initial planned armaments. They could be argued maybe for a pre production XF-2A maybe, but they’re not indicitave of its actual productipn loadout.
The reason for the MRMs on outer pylons and ASMs on inner ones is that the initial requirement was 4x ASMs and 4x ARHs, so they were to be used on different pylons. However later the requirement was lowered to 4x ASMs or ARHs, not both at once. Due to the want for more range from drop tanks on inners, and the feaaibility of loading issues on the outer ones.
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Anyway, the in-game armaments of F-2 are self-contradictory, it is that obvious.
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This is ridiculous. We can get XF-2A better than actual F-2A Late…
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If Gaijin allow it to mount all missiles, there is no big issues, tbh. If we see this plane as 12.7 with 6 AIM-7 and 2 9L, 60 (?) CM is enough. Radar range is also not a problem for distances at it’s BR.1 It can be more comfortable plane than F-2A ADTW
and lets see how they address the countermeasure count on the tech tree one, cuz even 120 standard countermeasures isn’t sometimes enough, with how much you need when you are getting hunted by 3 or more guys
and the top speed and acceleration of the thing is also questionable, it feels sluggish compared to EFT or RFL