Mitsubishi F-15J

only static they produce less thrust. around mach 1, they start producing more thrust.

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Static thrust doesn’t matter for the actual run.
They produce more thrust at speed and even more above mach 1.

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Do you have a graph for this so I can see?

@ 5000m, 100% internal fuel

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If you want to know where he got the graph from, you can even mess around with what is shown. Like this:

Only thrust

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A new camo for the F-15J(M) dropped! Very nice and clean.

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Finally took them forever to add a new skin there’s many they can choose from

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The F-15J In game has the inccorect fuel mass, this is due to gaijin assuming it uses the same fuel as the other F-15s, when in reality it should use the less dense JP-4, rather then JP-8. Opened a bug report for it.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/De6RAL0Q2Wbi

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I doubt they are going to change that. By that same logic, you could change any F-15 to use any number of different fuels

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Not really, all the US F-15 variants we have exclusively use JP-8 (thanks in part due to the specific F-15A variant we have). The specific J (M) we have in game should only use JP-8 based on it’s year. Leaving the base F-15J as the only option to exclusively use JP-4.

Now, yes, which fuel the isreal eagles use isn’t clear, and they could be given any one as far as i know, however without evidence gaijin isn’t going to change them so. (I do believe the I atleast uses JP-8, as i don’t believe the -229s were made tuned around JP-4)

Right, but that doesn’t change the fact that they are just as capable of using a whole range of fuels, and the manuals exist for their usage.

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Yes, they all can technically use either fuel (except for the -229s). However, which fuel is used depends on the military, the USAF started phasing out JP-4 in the late 70s in favor of JP-8 (although it was used up until the early 90s), hence why the USAF F-15s in game would only use JP-8, as it’s what the US had in supply and intended to use with them by the year of the models we have in game. Likewise JP-4 was the only military aviation fuel used for jets by japan in the timeframe the F-15J is from, hence why it should get it, and not JP-8, as japan literally didn’t use JP-8 yet.

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I’m not gonna get involved in the nerd talk but as far as the in game F-15J goes (13.0), I have been playing it lately and I still really like it. It’s limited in ways but is also very strong in other ways and it forces me to think while playing while still providing a relatively high skill ceiling.

It is highly possible that JP-4 was the only fuel available for the F-15J at the time. But the idea that it is technically possible applies to other aircraft and to tanks as well. If we are going to make a decision based solely on timing, we need to find evidence that the F-15J equipped with Turkey Feathers, which is shown in the reply a bit above, is equipped with AAM-3. I can’t be certain, as this is my personal research, but I can find no record of the JASDF purchasing the AIM-9M. However, the fact that they are equipped with 9M in the game is also “different from reality.”
However, I too hope that it will be implemented as close to reality as possible.

The game only uses one kerosene type for all jet aircraft.
That “report” would be a suggestion, as the type used in-game does not matter for realism or gameplay purposes.
It’s like your pilot smoking a cigar or a cigarette, it doesn’t really matter, both are equally realistic.

I don’t understand this either. Why did they add ahistorical AIM-9M if it wasn’t needed? AAM-3 in game fulfills the same purpose already.

I understand that Gaijin add weaponry based on compatibility if needed, but this isn’t needed at all.

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I have made a few comments on the forum, “remove the 9M on the F-15J”, but no one, not even the moderators, responds. Even on social networking sites where Japanese people gather. Even if I wanted to file a bug report I would have to go through all purchase records. In other words, devil’s proof.

I use this as an example to illustrate the difference between “technically feasible” and “timely.” I too am not convinced about the 9M implementation of the F-15J.

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Cause the AIM-9M is still a historical weapon for the F-15 platform regardless of what countries added on top of that for their domestic variants.

There’s zero rational reason to support removing a weapon.
RP requirements stay the same.
It’s an alternative weapon to use if you see fit.

that’s because it doesn’t matter, no one except the people who are stockgrinding use the 9M and even then what would it change if F-16AJ is still present

like there are things in bigger spotlight and arguing about these pity little things will never change anything because no one will care

if i recall the AAM-4 is equal to AIM-120C-5 but its artificially nerfed to fit the balance of the game

maybe later it’ll be corrected to a more realistic standard

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