Not really, all the US F-15 variants we have exclusively use JP-8 (thanks in part due to the specific F-15A variant we have). The specific J (M) we have in game should only use JP-8 based on it’s year. Leaving the base F-15J as the only option to exclusively use JP-4.
Now, yes, which fuel the isreal eagles use isn’t clear, and they could be given any one as far as i know, however without evidence gaijin isn’t going to change them so. (I do believe the I atleast uses JP-8, as i don’t believe the -229s were made tuned around JP-4)
Yes, they all can technically use either fuel (except for the -229s). However, which fuel is used depends on the military, the USAF started phasing out JP-4 in the late 70s in favor of JP-8 (although it was used up until the early 90s), hence why the USAF F-15s in game would only use JP-8, as it’s what the US had in supply and intended to use with them by the year of the models we have in game. Likewise JP-4 was the only military aviation fuel used for jets by japan in the timeframe the F-15J is from, hence why it should get it, and not JP-8, as japan literally didn’t use JP-8 yet.
I’m not gonna get involved in the nerd talk but as far as the in game F-15J goes (13.0), I have been playing it lately and I still really like it. It’s limited in ways but is also very strong in other ways and it forces me to think while playing while still providing a relatively high skill ceiling.
It is highly possible that JP-4 was the only fuel available for the F-15J at the time. But the idea that it is technically possible applies to other aircraft and to tanks as well. If we are going to make a decision based solely on timing, we need to find evidence that the F-15J equipped with Turkey Feathers, which is shown in the reply a bit above, is equipped with AAM-3. I can’t be certain, as this is my personal research, but I can find no record of the JASDF purchasing the AIM-9M. However, the fact that they are equipped with 9M in the game is also “different from reality.”
However, I too hope that it will be implemented as close to reality as possible.
The game only uses one kerosene type for all jet aircraft.
That “report” would be a suggestion, as the type used in-game does not matter for realism or gameplay purposes.
It’s like your pilot smoking a cigar or a cigarette, it doesn’t really matter, both are equally realistic.
I have made a few comments on the forum, “remove the 9M on the F-15J”, but no one, not even the moderators, responds. Even on social networking sites where Japanese people gather. Even if I wanted to file a bug report I would have to go through all purchase records. In other words, devil’s proof.
I use this as an example to illustrate the difference between “technically feasible” and “timely.” I too am not convinced about the 9M implementation of the F-15J.
that’s because it doesn’t matter, no one except the people who are stockgrinding use the 9M and even then what would it change if F-16AJ is still present
like there are things in bigger spotlight and arguing about these pity little things will never change anything because no one will care
Which is a pretty weak argument here. If there was no Japanese equivalent, sure, but as long as AAM-3 is implemented the way it is there is no reason for the AIM-9M.
It’s not removed, because the F-15J never had it. In fact, the entire nation of Japan didn’t.
By the logic of “historical weapon for the F-15 platform” I wonder why GBU-8 was removed. The capability is there, the need is greater because there is no Japanese equivalent in game. The only reason for that is historical accuracy.
This accuracy shouldn’t be applied differently to different weapons.
I guess this is another issue, and is the same as vehicle implementation, but there needs to be clear cut rules rather than subjective dev judgement.
For example a simple set of:
Historically used weapons are added to the nation that used them, historically tested weapons are added to the nation that tested them, exceptions of not used weapons can be made for gameplay need
…is clear enough to make sense, and make bug reports possible for missing armament, and even still gives room for subjective balance decisions like the countermeasures on all F-5A/Cs, yet somehow Gaijin never released anything like this, and treat different weapons and vehicles with seemingly varying criteria.
Penguin ASM magically being able to track tanks, Kh-38MT’s very existance
GCS-1 somehow being unable to track tanks despite being proven countless times that it can (come on gaijin give us our GCS-1 u had it in the game since 2021)
@MAUSWAFFE
We are not playing as the Japanese airforce. YOU can LARP as them if you want, but that doesn’t give you the right to strip options away from other players.
You have no right to claim historical weapons are ahistorical over biases.
The F-15s used AIM-9Ms and all of them can. The objective rules of manufacturers and War Thunder dictate that. These rules are clear cut and have always existed.
And as I said, the modification RP requirements do not change if weapons are removed, the RP from that weapon gets distributed among the remaining modifications.
The manufacturer of F-5 made all F-5A onward capable of receiving countermeasure add-ons from the start, it’s in-line with the rules.
The manufacturer’s word is the baseline, this has always been the case, this is not Gaijin, this is not subjective.
Yes, it would be 9 500lb Mk82 GCS-1, three on each MER (instead of six, because GCS-1 seekers don’t fit when trying to mount more). I don’t think the F-15J used JM117 750lb bombs, so that would mean no 750lb GCS-1 unless I missed something.
Sadly this isn’t missing armament, since GCS-1 is not in game yet. So it would be a suggestion.
We are not playing as the Japanese airforce. YOU can LARP as them if you want, but that doesn’t give you the right ti strip options away from other players.
You have no right to claim historical weapons are ahistorical over biases.
Then if thats the case why hasnt the F-15J/MJ recieved GBU-8’s, if we are going by an ahistorical basis
F-15’s were able to use GBU-8’s so why doesnt japan have it?