In the situation you showed, every IR missile would miss because it was unlucky, + the typhoon turned at you so the best solution would be launching 120 or aam4
Are the JM engines supposed to output less power than the original J engines? Since, that seems to be the case in game at the moment.
1 Like
only static they produce less thrust. around mach 1, they start producing more thrust.
3 Likes
Static thrust doesn’t matter for the actual run.
They produce more thrust at speed and even more above mach 1.
2 Likes
Do you have a graph for this so I can see?
If you want to know where he got the graph from, you can even mess around with what is shown. Like this:
2 Likes
Finally took them forever to add a new skin there’s many they can choose from
3 Likes
The F-15J In game has the inccorect fuel mass, this is due to gaijin assuming it uses the same fuel as the other F-15s, when in reality it should use the less dense JP-4, rather then JP-8. Opened a bug report for it.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/De6RAL0Q2Wbi
6 Likes
I doubt they are going to change that. By that same logic, you could change any F-15 to use any number of different fuels
1 Like
Not really, all the US F-15 variants we have exclusively use JP-8 (thanks in part due to the specific F-15A variant we have). The specific J (M) we have in game should only use JP-8 based on it’s year. Leaving the base F-15J as the only option to exclusively use JP-4.
Now, yes, which fuel the isreal eagles use isn’t clear, and they could be given any one as far as i know, however without evidence gaijin isn’t going to change them so. (I do believe the I atleast uses JP-8, as i don’t believe the -229s were made tuned around JP-4)
Right, but that doesn’t change the fact that they are just as capable of using a whole range of fuels, and the manuals exist for their usage.
1 Like
Yes, they all can technically use either fuel (except for the -229s). However, which fuel is used depends on the military, the USAF started phasing out JP-4 in the late 70s in favor of JP-8 (although it was used up until the early 90s), hence why the USAF F-15s in game would only use JP-8, as it’s what the US had in supply and intended to use with them by the year of the models we have in game. Likewise JP-4 was the only military aviation fuel used for jets by japan in the timeframe the F-15J is from, hence why it should get it, and not JP-8, as japan literally didn’t use JP-8 yet.
2 Likes
I’m not gonna get involved in the nerd talk but as far as the in game F-15J goes (13.0), I have been playing it lately and I still really like it. It’s limited in ways but is also very strong in other ways and it forces me to think while playing while still providing a relatively high skill ceiling.
It is highly possible that JP-4 was the only fuel available for the F-15J at the time. But the idea that it is technically possible applies to other aircraft and to tanks as well. If we are going to make a decision based solely on timing, we need to find evidence that the F-15J equipped with Turkey Feathers, which is shown in the reply a bit above, is equipped with AAM-3. I can’t be certain, as this is my personal research, but I can find no record of the JASDF purchasing the AIM-9M. However, the fact that they are equipped with 9M in the game is also “different from reality.”
However, I too hope that it will be implemented as close to reality as possible.
The game only uses one kerosene type for all jet aircraft.
That “report” would be a suggestion, as the type used in-game does not matter for realism or gameplay purposes.
It’s like your pilot smoking a cigar or a cigarette, it doesn’t really matter, both are equally realistic.
I don’t understand this either. Why did they add ahistorical AIM-9M if it wasn’t needed? AAM-3 in game fulfills the same purpose already.
I understand that Gaijin add weaponry based on compatibility if needed, but this isn’t needed at all.
3 Likes
I have made a few comments on the forum, “remove the 9M on the F-15J”, but no one, not even the moderators, responds. Even on social networking sites where Japanese people gather. Even if I wanted to file a bug report I would have to go through all purchase records. In other words, devil’s proof.
I use this as an example to illustrate the difference between “technically feasible” and “timely.” I too am not convinced about the 9M implementation of the F-15J.
3 Likes
Cause the AIM-9M is still a historical weapon for the F-15 platform regardless of what countries added on top of that for their domestic variants.
There’s zero rational reason to support removing a weapon.
RP requirements stay the same.
It’s an alternative weapon to use if you see fit.