Mission maker and what counts towards it

[S-200VE_Vega]

@Dodo_Dud

You evade my querstion as to how the majority is disadvantaged to begin with.

Nike Ajax:

ill answer your question after you have answered my question to provide evidence about it not being a majority situation as you clearly dont believe that it is
or, do you now believe that it is a majority situation. if you don’t, then provide the evidence that guides you to believe in this way. after we are done with this, we can deal with your question as you asked it second. trying to derail an argument doesn’t work here.

[Dodo_Dud]

@Nike Ajax

feel free to prove how your situation is what happens in majority of matches

Please quote ME where I make that claim. Don’t reiterate your claim.

Here are yours, in case you look for them.

@Nike Ajax

you just want grinding to be slower

@Nike Ajax

it still would trash the majority needs for minority needs

[S-200VE_Vega]

@Dodo_Dud

Please quote me where I make that claim.

If you don’t have evidence, feel free to state that your beliefs are not guided by reality

[Dodo_Dud]

This is getting silly.

[S-200VE_Vega]

in short “no, my beliefs are not based on evidence so i cant provide any”

[Dodo_Dud]

Whatever…

[Dodo_Dud]

@Nike Ajax

if you have beliefs, you should either tell if you have evidence backing it up or clearly tell that your beliefs have no evidence if you are using them in an argument

Apply to:

@Nike Ajax

simple. it would be more costly to computate player location at airfield or not constantly and in situations where the aircraft was not killed at airfield and most of the time with how severe damage works (aircraft is most of the time dying anyway) the final blow should be delivered to the person who caused the severe damage to prevent kill stealers from being rewarded with the kill when the aircraft is already dying
computational restrictions means we have to fall on the situation that happens way more often rather than the situation that happens very rarely and not judging for the most common
additionally if it was the game clock the final blow can still be delivered due to kill reward

I might add that punctuation, paragraphs and capitalization, as well as structure and context may help too.

[viski253]

@Stona_WT

AFAIK AI targets counts towards mission maker (first strike + final blow).

The battle prior to this one. I was in a Tu-2 and the scenario was this. I’m the last guy on my team. I already got the first strike award. I have one 1000 kg bomb with a 1.5 s fuse. I dive on a heavy tank drop the bomb, crash before the bomb kills the AI. And as I get the kill the tickets start to bleed. I got the last kill on anything that game. Still no mission maker.

so to clarify. the kill feed last read:

• My Tu-2 crashed
• Heavy tank bombed by me.

[Dodo_Dud]

@viski253

Still no mission maker.

And who got final blow? Watch the replay and find out why he got it.

[viski253]

@Brave_Idiot

Mission maker is very hard to get intentionally since the ‘severe damage’ mechanism was introduced into the game.

It seems like something they should change so it doesn’t count towards the final blow award.

Because the game is saying that the player who was severally damaged and gets thrown out of the vehicle after the tickets run out, was counted as a kill prior to the point of the game ending. So it wouldn’t make sense for someone already consider to be killed in some sense to also be a the last kill as the game ends.

[FlyingDoctor]

What you do need to do is what Stona said, but also even link them the server replay as well.

That last crashed plane could be something, but the scoreboard does negate that. I’ve had a few times we’ve got a crashed plane counted as a kill, but I’ve never actually paid attention to the kill count, but it should logically add that the the score.

[viski253]

So that Ki-83 got the final blow even though he didn’t eve get the last kill.

[FlyingDoctor]

That’s even crazier and points to it maybe even being bugged now.

[viski253]

ill make a report if nothing else.

[Dodo_Dud]

@viski253

So that Ki-83 got the final blow even though he didn’t eve get the last kill.

Have you checked if the last killer had a +1 in his score board kill count before the game ended? Or did you observe him doing severe damage?

Perhaps you can exchange your mission maker wagers for other wagers?

[viski253]

@Dodo_Dud

Have you checked if the last killer had a +1 in his score board kill count before the game ended? Or did you observe him doing severe damage?

No because it was just me on my team and I took no damage before crashing.

@Dodo_Dud

Perhaps you can exchange your mission maker wagers for other wagers?

Not if this Is a bug and I have a good tactic to complete it.

[Dodo_Dud]

@viski253

No because it was just me on my team and I took no damage before crashing.

Severe damage while he was alive (replay!)

[Brave_Idiot]

@Nike Ajax

simple. it would be more costly to computate player location at airfield or not constantly and in situations where the aircraft was not killed at airfield and most of the time with how severe damage works (aircraft is most of the time dying anyway) the final blow should be delivered to the person who caused the severe damage to prevent kill stealers from being rewarded with the kill when the aircraft is already dying
computational restrictions means we have to fall on the situation that happens way more often rather than the situation that happens very rarely and not judging for the most common
additionally if it was the game clock the final blow can still be delivered due to kill reward

Honestly I do not understand most of this.
I am not talking about ‘kill stealer’ and makes no logical sense to bring up. In any case the ‘kill stealer’ still get the kill, the player who did severe damage just also gets one.

If, in my example, our hero destroyed Enemy A as their last kill I believe they would be credited with ‘Final Blow’ reward as they get credit for the actual kill.

Do you have any proof for the ‘computational restrictions’ part of your argument?

It would be easy enough to have the kills for severe damage be added 1 second after the game ends, but before the final screen. Or any number of other way to implement it. As neither of us are privy to the coded used to run the game it is illogical to talk about it.

I simply feel the player who did severe damage, but failed to kill the player does not deserve the ‘Final Blow’ reward.

@Nike Ajax

the small amount of reward does no harm
you just want grinding to be slower

Completing the final stage of Mission Maker wager is 500,000SL.
Nothing about this situation has any effect on RP.
I think players who make kills should receive kill awards.

[viski253]

there was no severe damage.

[Hylian_Knights]

Please avoid derailing threads with off topic discussions. If you have a personal argument with someone else take it to PM or drop it. Making a thread go further off topic is not productive or acceptable. @FlyingDoctor @Nike_Ajax