The mirage 3 S70 in germany should be 10.7 man.
It should also get its historical munitions and bump up even higher.
the 3E is fine at 10.7 ?
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At the point where the J-7D sits at 10.7, no Mirage III belongs there—neither at that BR nor anywhere near it. Moreover, with the F8U-2, MiG-21 SMT and MF at 10.3.
It needs to be solved by sending J-7D higher to 11.0
Not sending IIIE down to 10.3
Comparing A-10A fuselage and Mirage III… Really mate.
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J7D → 11.0
IIIS —> 10.7/11.0
IIIE- Fine where it is
IIIC- Can’t really move up because no flares or RWR
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Just checking, you mean that ‘if it gets historical AIM-9P’ case.
Right?
;)
Others are flawlessly acceptable even without any further explanation, I think.
If the IIIS gets the AIM-9Ps 11.0 absolutely. As it stands, 10.7 seems like the right BR for it, as its better than a 3E but not much better to warrant a higher BR.
Sure, when the Mirage 3S is moved to 10.0, and F-5C moves back to 10.3. /s
Mirage 3E is fine where it is.
Mig-21SMT is a bus and fires the far worse weapons known as R-60s.
If it gets AIM-9Js yeah.
11.0? That’s too high for 9Js for its platform.
It’s not an F-4EJ.
Maaayyybe it will be fine if we thinks about F-5E
But unsure about that bc i didn’t unlocked IIIS of mine yet.
And also maybe you might misread that part.
It seems he might think IIIS is better than IIIE bc it has lower BR and using it as one of reason for buffing IIIE down.
It’s extremely mediocre if not getting close to simply bad and not worth playing beyond unlocking it to get the next vehicle… but yeah I guess that qualifies
And an F4 is no mirage. R60s are pretty strong at 10.3 sure they’re no Magic 1, but you get up to 4 of them. Could see the SMT at 10.7, as its flight performance is still good enough for 10.7.
Thats a compression issue, the Mirage IIIC can’t move up as its flareless. In a 9.0 downtier the thing is near untouchable. As for the IIIE, 10.7 isn’t great but I can’t see it going to 10.3 while remaining in a balanced state.
It’s worse than many vehicles currently at 10.3.
Who is asking for the 3C to go up
I think 10.7BR is fine for IIIE, but a little bit of buff for stock loadout might be juicy and won’t hurt much.
Stock grind of IIIC was insane thanks to AIM-9B, and I am quite shunned to try IIIE stock grind while I need to fight against 23ML with 9B. :(
Legacy modification tree is brutal I think.
Why
BC it is IIIC but with RWR and flares?
Seems not a great jet thanks to the insane level of compression, also seems not a bad enough to get buffed down to 10.3
I have a plan to ace it if Gaijin get rid of brutal stock or 23ML
I enjoyed both IIIC and israel one, so I think it will not that bad.
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Was talking about the Mirage III BRs, thought I’d shove it in there. As for the 3 CJ, 10.0 fair again as it trades the Magic 1 for longer range IR msls (9Ds)
It is heavier with a better engine though, you do lose a bit of flight performance :)
No, it is a 3C that has FAR worse thrust/weight ratio because it gains over a ton in empty weight but you gain 20 kg/f of thrust on afterburner… that’s a rounding error. It gains a SMALL amount of countermeasures in exchange for this along with the RWR… things you ONLY need because you’re at 10.7 to begin with. At 10.0 a RWR is optional. You’re paying 0.7br to get 45 CMs and a far worse flight model.
Ok but I am only talking about the 3E
It is just heavier, the engine is almost identical.
You gain 20 kg/f of thrust on afterburner… that’s a rounding error.