6 fox 3 at 13 3 vs f18 at new proposed BR of 13.0?! with sparrows and 9Ls isnt even comparable.
Lets be real. 12.3 - 12.7 doesnt compete, the BR(s) get so few downtiers its irrelevent. No.point focusing on one plane when its the game.
you’re not real, to think that F-4EJ Kai should be same BR than F/A-18A.
problem F/A-18A BR placement is linked to the F/A-18C early.
Last of which is too low BR considering it have similar features on AIM-7P than R-27ER (datalink).
Performance Wise, F/A-18’s are better than F-16A’s
i’m telling you that F/A-18C early (13.0) will remain under the F-16A ADF BR (13.3)
while the F/A-18A get the same as the F-16AJ (12.7)
OR (let’s give you an alternative to your bullshit)
you do the job to complain the following way:
F-4EJ KAI goes from 12.3 to 12.0
F-16AJ goes from 12.7 to 12.3
and similarly to all aircrafts that needs it (many Mig-29 9-12 for exemples, and Mirage 4000 / F-15A / F-14B to 12.7)
Compressing the game even more instead of pushing to liberate.
because what you want is not to decompress BR’s
The downgrades make more sense until / if we get decompression
F16a- 12.0- stats say it all. Best FM and still takes the L - goes to show FM isnt doing much vs missile thunder
F18a- leave
F18 premium- add 9ms or leave
F16 netz give it the extra CMs or 12.3
In a world where we dont have flanker at 13.0 with fox 1 and just a 0.3 increaee gives the flanker fox 3 your BRs make sense. Currently not at all and yes its more compression but theres not much options.
F-16A Blk 10 is fine where it is,… people don’t know how to play.
i played it recently
EDIT:
since early 2025: 36kills for 14 deaths, that’s 2.57 KD for F-16A Blk 10
completely wrong,… R-27ER aren’t unbeatable, Su-27 at 13.0 is good only because people don’t pay attention.
Not so sure it is players in this case. Its one of the worst jets i have stat wise IIRC and one of the worst globally.
Someone was saying they have a 3 KD in it on this forum. We said not in todays meta. He went and played 10 games to prove us wrong and didnt even hit 1.5 KD.
I played it just last night and was the same struggle. I like a challange so its aight but wouldnt ever use it if i cared about stats
i added that in-between.
and in 2024 i was getting 2.63 KD
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Flanker is just a bully.
Destroys downtiers. Still puts work in vs uptiers . Most aces in any jet for me anyway in the 13.0.flanker. love the beast
flanker is just at it’s right place,… since you don’t want f/A-18C to get pushed up,…
you’re the one asking for a fix of Flanker,… but it can’t go up today,… yet,… if gaijin and you were honest,… BR 15.3 would be open today,… and Flanker would be higher in BR too.
the problem is that you don’t want changes to happen,… you prefer to minimize, and reduce the problem to “Flanker is a bully”.
yet,… F/A-18A / F/A-18C early’s are bullys on their own
and i’m still asking myself how i’ve got such resuts, when i played my F-4EJ KAI lately:
58 / 21 = 2.76 KD
No im not saying that at all.
Flanker 13.0.is where the level.is set for 13.0. It should be 13.7 and new EF 15.0 but as is right now no jet can really be moved as its a general issue.
AND FOR IT TO MOVE,… YOU NEED CONCESSIONS!!! Goddamn,… when you don’t anna understand things
Its obvious its needed but until we get BR 15+ we are stuck. Putting f18 at 13.0 with flanker and friemds isnt the answer.
i shall remember you, that i’m for a whole new blank page.
too many aircrafts are placed, because of results, at BR they don’t belong to.
True but you know the premium f18 isnt 13.0 worthy at current.
Even in the right hands theres no way its near the level of the flanker or even the f2 at 13.0.
F2 is another one. Having a great FM with sparrows doesnt mean much when its in lobbies vs its big brother and the rest of the 13.7s
like many other current 13.0,… yet, it’s in the limits of possibility,… the F/A-18A clearly should be 12.7 though
Give the 12.3 paywalled Ps and sure
Give the f18 premiums 9ms and all good
Top trumps: F2 vs f18
FM- F2
Speed- F2
Missiles - Draw
Radar - F2 , still better even with no HMD
Cm count- F2
Easy winner F2
Dont see the 13.0 even using other premium
the one i’m completely not understanding the 12.3 BR is the F/A-18A. i wish immediate change of BR
For 12.3 F/A-18A vs F-16AJ 12.7, it goes:
CM-Count : SAME
Radar: F/A-18A
Type of Missiles : same missiles
Number of missiles: F/A-18A
if F/A-18A take 6 AIM-9L, it have 2 more missiles than F-16AJ
if F/A-18A take more AIM-7M, it have more medium range missiles than F-16AJ (coupled to a better radar)
FM : both have strengths and weakness nothing is night and day, but the F/A-18A will love short stallfights, while the F-16AJ will keep on the aggressive position longer, thanks to:
Acceleration: F-16AJ
time from 400km/h to Mach 1, F/A-18A is late from 3 to 4 seconds depending on altitude, clearly close, and not allowing to escape easily from a turnfight
Max-Speed : F-16AJ
VNE at 1000m, is 80km/h better
VNE at 10000m, is 120km/h better
Maneuvrability : mostly in favor of F-16AJ, but not at very low speed (under 400)
So clearly the F/A-18A should be 12.7 already, because it’s kit is similar to a F-16AJ which is 12.7.
what the F/A-18A doesn’t have is compensated by a higher number of missile + better Radar and capacity to pull harder AoA in gunfights (thanks to the G limiter removal)
Fair TBH. But theres not enough BRs to move stuff to keep it balanced across the board so to speak.
Move f18a which probably could roll.at 12.7 but then the premium f18 going to 13.0… put it this way i wouldnt be given one at 13.0 with current loadout.
F-16 has superior flight performance while carrying Fox-3 missiles compare to premium F-18’s.
Not to mention F-16’s should already gotten Aim-9M’s at that br but Gaijin refuses to add it.
Also 15 large caliber flares and 30 chaffs is more than enough to deal with anything due to bein them single drop, I’m use to from F-20A Tiger shark so it shouldn’t be problem at all.
READ AGAIN,… there was a whole conversation about those matters,… and while i can “tolerate” the F/A-18C early BR, i don’t tolerate the F/A-18A one