it will still be ass no matter how good the seeker is due to flight dynamics
Do you have anything to back that up or are you just going to say it.
what makes you think this missile was somehow a good missile in real life in the time it existed compared to its counterparts?
The 530F flies fine, its just slightly picky on its range is all, the falling-for-first-chaff is the issue
if you think that is a problem then you can agree the r60m should also be buffed because it falls for the first flare
So you’re comparing a radar-guided missile at 12.0 to an IR-guided missile that pulls considerably harder at 10.7?
are you seriously comparing sarhs and fox-2s
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its the same logic, if something should be improved because they fall for first chaff then the same should be done with missiles that fall for the first flare. battleratings dont matter here.
Not to mention the flare rejection of R60 at any range outside point blank is dubious, at best. Complete fantasy on most counts.
But mate insists that a 20g missile that should have chaff rejection, according to a myriad of documents, is a bad missile. So who knows.
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no person has a problem dodging a 20g missile if they try, especially from front. if they dont try to dodge they also aren’t going to be dropping chaff so youd hit it with the current model too. there will be no increase in effectiveness.
That seems like an incredibly bad idea.
I was not discussing its BR, but I was asking about it’s RWR in order to see if the claim that it’s worse than the Mig-23s is true. Then you come and say that IFF isn’t important and then claim that RWR isn’t helpful.
So you should have no issue bringing the missile up to parity with available documentation.
Its not the same logic. One’s at a lower BR, doesn’t require a constant radar lock, doesn’t set off any RWRs, and is at 10.7, and doesn’t include IRCCM
One of them is at 12.0, methods to filter chaff, pulls less, requires a radar lock. Of course 530F should have SOME chaff res, R60M has nothing to do with that
“rwr is helpful” i can lock you and scare you and make you change your plans but a person who ignores rwr wont have that problem
Wow, this guy will be astounded when he learns of the concept of situational awareness.
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are you actually joking
it doesn’t matter any of this if you can just press a single button to make the missile go away
so suddenly you will be ignoring the rwr and not caring about it. “so useful”
Fun fact: That’s historical accuracy for you.
We should bring things up to parity with documentation, when it can be done. If that means the missile has issues such as poor flare rejection, oh well. That’s the way the cookie crumbles.
Reread what I said, slowly.
exactly so you will be ignoring rwr and you agree with me that you will instead be using your eyeballs for situational awaraness because the rwr isnt actually reliable. fun fact you cant actually know whether a person is just pinging you for fun or intending to attack you from looking at the rwr. you have to rely on your eyes and ignore what the rwr says.