Mirage F1C EXTREMELY unfair BR rating in late 2025

It’s not at all. But you have to think a bit out of the box and do what GJ is actually incapable of.
Make specific rules and your BRs to work more like a battlegroup. The armament should dynamically change the BR of the vehicles.
You can’t NOT take to account what armament someone has on … because it’s not like WW2/early jets speed/acceleration/maneuverability. That’s 1/3 of the parts. Now you have electronics/CMs …and guided armament.

still not,… there is differences on how much HOBS you can launched them (5° differences)

they can Re-lock when you lost radar lost and relock yourself (no others got that)

IIRC the difference is 55° vs 60°. Those 5° will never matter enough to jistify treating 7M as entirely different missile.

Sure, that is both convenient and helpfull, but that makes it SARH with DL and IOG, not quasi ARH as it still relies on plane radar to do the homing.

In this thread: People who think a jet should stomp 11.0s just because it does badly in 13.0 games.

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The F1C spam is so egregious that even in my F-14A and F-14B a full BR above it, I still cannot play a low/aggressive playstyle against them in a full downtier. They fill the bracket with IRCCM spam, and you want to put them even lower??

Both the planes you just stated are under-tiered due to compression, so you should be advocating for decompression.

Good thing it’s BR is 12.0 and your hyperbole is anecdotal.

dude it was sarcasm the 12.7 match maker and 13.0 matchmaker are so bad now its unplayable

Oh,… sowwy,… i can’t tell sarcasm when written down,…
even less when the whole sentence could be said with seriousness !

never heard of precising your thoughts, when it’s written??
we’re not in your head,… we don’t see making the sarcasm,…

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i have same problem no worries

Decompression

Simply flying low and getting into a knife fight guarantees an air kill thanks to the Magic 2. Their Fox 1s have also been functional for some time.

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You basically have 2 garunteed kills while being as fast if not faster than phantoms which means you reach bases first so for grinding you basically have a garunteed base and 2 garunteed kills. This is all while there are jets that have no IRCCM at the same br or even look at the NETZ it doesnt have irccm missiles and no radar missiles and its 12.7 so it faces ARH missiles constantly

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By the way.
The way of proper balancing in modern planes is something like this.
Have a look here . It’s unrealistic in this game people to make good proposals that would make the game way better for every vehicle and us just stay and pick fights about things that can’t be balanced properly without the correct tools .

Magic 2s at 12.0, which literally guarantee free kills at that BR, but its “too high” lmao.

I own it. 12.0 is perfectly fine.

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If anything, it’s too low.

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If anything ,the MM is BS. Ofc it’s too low against an 11.0 and it’s trash against a 13.0 .
In fact M2 in the specific plane makes it equal against other 12.0s … assuming you can play proper defence (not that easy if more than 1v1) and get in position firstly. Everything else is an 11.0 plane.

The F1C is fine at its current BR.

The F/A-18s while it boasts a huge armament of AIM-7s it can be defeated. Uptiers suck for everyone, but in a downtier again it is a beast.

It has a decent flight model, reaches high speeds even on the deck, it has a HUGE amount of countermeasures making it almost invulnerable to IR missiles and most of the radar missiles you face can be defeated easily if you know what you are doing, especially the AIM-7P.

Any higher and it would be terrible for the jet, any lower and it would be terrible for everyone else.

Ofcourse you need some skill (tactics) to use it with the given armament.

If anything, BR decompression is what is needed, I’d argue for a cut between FOX-3 and non-FOX-3 jets, since it has rendered for example the mirage 4k almost unusable.

Good: fast, high CMs and magic 2s

Bad: worst radar missiles in the game.
You need all the CMs as the RWR is garbage.
Terrible FM for dogfights, even a phantom slaps it.

Costs real £££ for one of the worst planes around… has 1 trick which if you just dont give the f1c your ass … its completly useless.

Not worth even for half price.

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Well that’s how it is, there are pros and cons. If you play it for its strengths, it can do pretty well. The flight model is fine imo as long as you dont overcommit and arent out of position, yes it loses speed and recovers it slower below 700km/h but if you avoid getting yourself in such situations you are fine.

I don’t go on dogfights against Mig-21s for example. The F-4 aren’t that much of a problem to be honest, they are flying buses.
Yes the radar missile sucks but I take the gun pods instead.
The RWR is shit, but all I need is just a warning I am being tracked/something is fired and I’ll look to the general direction, the bountiful CMs take care of the rest.

I got it half price, definitely worth it, I grinded almost the entirety of the french tree with it.

Edit: I have to admit, that my performance with it is due to really sweating with it at times and locking in hard. An 11.7 BR for it would also be reasonable, but hardly anything below it. The JH-7 at 11.3 is somewhat similar with the 2x magic 2s but on paper it seems to have much worse FM, with almost twice the weight, less max speed.

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Terrible FM for dogfights, even a phantom slaps it.

I don’t think any F-4 Phantom player in the right state of mind would be willing to turn close against something that has Magic IIs bruh.

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Kfir Canard is a joke. The F1C is okay