The only way Mirage F1 can move down is if all 11.7s move down, which would make 11.3s move down, and that’d continue until 13.0’s compression impacts BR down to 1.0.
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530F got buffed in the last year i think, su33 r73’s are annoying but most of the time when you face F18’s or Su27 / 33’s they just immediately hit manuever mode and lose all their energy its hilarious
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imo a magic 1 mirage f1 early would be a good addition for 11.3 or so, as the FM isn’t anything crazy. A kit of non-super R530’s and magic 1’s would be pretty compelling
Case in point for these missiles not being enough to save this plane. AFAIK, gatewidth IRCCM is supposed to clamp down the missile’s FOV as soon as the seeker attains a lock so… where IRCCM, Matra?
IMO the Magic 2s hurt the Mirage F1 C more than they help it, for the simple fact that A) they’re prone to this, and B) they push what is objectively an 11.0/11.3 airframe all the way up to 12.0.
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Have you tried using them at high altitude? They’re impossible for MiG-21’s to dodge.
Playing a Mirage F1 C at altitude? In this economy?
Sky in downtier and ground in uptiers, it’s simple.
Thats a very specific scenario though, pass.
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Any plane is going to have trouble dodging them…
Almost all MiG-21’s sky climb though.
I mean, you’re correct, but I’m still sour about it because the F1 C gets soooo many uptiers. I’m groundhugging basically every game. I’m a pilot, let me fly in the sky damnit!
Don’t play top tier or BVR range then. It’s either that, notching, or attempting to jink new ARH missiles to no avail.
Like i said in other similar topics…
Why you people aim at specific vehicles (aka what you play now) , and don’t just say the MM and balance in the game is crap. Overall.
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I can play top tier/BVR just fine, just not in the F1 C with its stone-age RWR.
I totally agree with you. It’s just that I enjoy playing at this BR because it is less chaotic than top tier. Alas they end up pairing 12.0 jets against way better ones like the premium JA37, Su33 and F-14 IRIAF…etc
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Yeah, SU-34 is my main experience aside the the JAS-39C. And it awful.
A lot of vehicles need to be moved up by .3 what do you mean my 12.7 F14A can face SU27SMs ?
Non-reheating target, side aspect on the 2nd shot.
They knew what they were doing.
IR missiles should be prioritized for targets that reheat.
Of course, JH-7 can and will out-dogfight F-1C as well, so the better tactic is to engage a JH-7 with a friendly.
did i ever talked about F-14’s ?!
now,… let’s face reality:
F/A-18A is the only aircraft featuring AIM-7M under 12.7 BR (F-16AJ is 12.7, because of AIM-7M btw)
F/A-18C early is featuring AIM-7P (the closest Fox-1 missile, to be a Fox-3, in USA Side), at 12.7 BR while all fox-3’s are 13.3 minimum (for aircrafts that are as capable in all other departements of flight/fight/avionics)
you can hide yourself about reality, from the massive Ego you’re seemingly have,…
but you can’t face facts!
F/A-18A’s and early C’s are under BRed and gives a problem to everything around them,…
Mirage F.1 is maybe a good 12.0, but there is plenty of other aircrafts as good, at same BR or lower for some.
F-4EJ Kai being at 12.3 (same BR than F/A-18A btw) doesn’t stand ANY chances against the F/A-18A, while it stands a fair chance vs Mirage F.1
We all know the game is overcompressed,… but Gaijin have been such a delinquent with how they’ve introduced F/A-18A and F/A-18C early in this game!
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There is a lot of something, but I’ve recently purchased the plane during the sales, and it is arguably the most balanced plane around 11.x-13.x BR range. 2x Magic IIs are great with their agility and acceleration, IRCCM is helpful when you do rear-aspect (not so well front-aspect), airframe withstands M1.1 at sea level and gains enough speed to reach M1.2 easily above 2-3km.
R.530s are very supplementary as they are not CW but Pulse signal SARH missiles, so even a single pop of chaff deflects the missile. But they are still something when you engage an enemy in the fight from a distance too great for gunfight.
The problem, as it was said billions of times, is the compression. By no means Su-33 with 12-missile loadout of which 8 are R-27ERs should face 12.0-12.3 which have straight up worse armament and/or systems to even engage them. F/A-18s should also not face some 11.7/12.0 planes that can barely do anything to counter AIM-7Ps effectively (there is barrel rolling, but it doesn’t matter if you face 3 premium F/A-18Cs each loaded with 6x of those).
The problem with jet-era is too complex to balance, but lowering this aircraft will only make it worse
7F and 7Ms are identical stat wise, ergo they can be found as low as 12.0 on F-4S. Sure, worse platform and radar, but I suppose that wasnt the point you were going for.
I beg your pardon?