Mirage F1C is one of the few aircraft at 12.0 that is probably actually at the right BR, but 12.0-13.0 is an extremely compressed mess at the moment where balance of any kind is basically impossible.
Just bare in mind, Tornado Gr4, Tornado SLE & Mirage 2000D-R3. All aircraft with only 2x IRCCM missiles currently at 12.3. So consider yourself very very lucky the Mirage F1C is at 12.0 and not 12.3 with its 2x IRCCM and 2x SARH.
Psst… Magic IIs :P
considering the JH-7 is 11.3…
It’s a 12.0 at 11.3 because Gaijin gave it PL-5E2s for some reason.
look at the F-4EJ Kai,… and then look at the BR of F-4EJ Kai compared to Mirage F.1’s
Mirage F.1’s are “fine”
but mark my words:
F/A-18A should be 12.7 (instead of current 12.3)
F/A-18C early (premium) should be 13.0 (instead of current 12.7)
kinda wrong : main weapon - to destroy Tu-95’s and similar type of aircraft,…
OH RIGHT, they’re not in the game,…
Ty, I knew it was a ‘XXXX 2’ missile with IRCCM
Why won’t people stop crying about the 2x Magic 2s this jet gets…
IRCCM missile doesn’t make this plane invincible. Since that they’re only good in Rear-aspect. GL sneaking up on a Hornet or a su 33.
Yeah… Sneaking up on people that’s all you could do at an uptier.
It’s a great jet and I love playing it but compression is a mess in 12-13 perhaps I didn’t word my poste well but that is my point.
TLDR; It’s a great jet at 12.0 - 12.3 tops.
id say it needs slight downtier but considering your br is filled with premiums most people will misunderstand the amount of gs your irccm missile can pull
The plane stays at 12.0 with mg2 with reasons.
imo why not remove mg2 and let it go down with mg1
That would be fine, but honestly it could go quite a bit further down than that if it gets magic 1 instead. Probably to 11.3 ish.
He’s out of line but he’s right. The Mirage F1 C just isn’t a good plane. 2x Magic 2s is nowhere near enough to save that shitbrick. With the way missiles are right now, the Magic 2s aren’t even two free kills anymore. Matter of fact, you’ll be damn lucky if these French shitbags don’t get one flared at anything outside of R-60M range.
The only way Mirage F1 can move down is if all 11.7s move down, which would make 11.3s move down, and that’d continue until 13.0’s compression impacts BR down to 1.0.
530F got buffed in the last year i think, su33 r73’s are annoying but most of the time when you face F18’s or Su27 / 33’s they just immediately hit manuever mode and lose all their energy its hilarious
imo a magic 1 mirage f1 early would be a good addition for 11.3 or so, as the FM isn’t anything crazy. A kit of non-super R530’s and magic 1’s would be pretty compelling
Case in point for these missiles not being enough to save this plane. AFAIK, gatewidth IRCCM is supposed to clamp down the missile’s FOV as soon as the seeker attains a lock so… where IRCCM, Matra?
IMO the Magic 2s hurt the Mirage F1 C more than they help it, for the simple fact that A) they’re prone to this, and B) they push what is objectively an 11.0/11.3 airframe all the way up to 12.0.
Have you tried using them at high altitude? They’re impossible for MiG-21’s to dodge.
Playing a Mirage F1 C at altitude? In this economy?
Sky in downtier and ground in uptiers, it’s simple.