and there you have the answer in the rest of that my reply.
All kfirs need to be dropped more than any other group of jets
Kfir canard is no better than the XS - 10.3 or 10.7
The other 2 kfirs moved to 11.0 and 11.3 respectivly… and nobody would even notice.
F5 already at 11.3 with 2 pythons.
i have spaded the Kfir C.7, i have played 108 matches on it, died 90 times and have 47% WR, im pretty sure that’s one of the only planes i can admit it isn’t my fault/skill issue that i have bad stats on it, cuz using non-IRCCM missiles in a fuselage that bleeds speed all the time, that has 36CM (when 10.3 planes have like +60), no actual radar and which has to be played hugging the ground or praying a Su-27 doesn’t see u flying at 5000m is honestly impossible.
Oh yeah I agree, I absolutely hated my time with the C.7.
I say move it to 11.7, at least 1 10.7 will suffer but its a worthy sacrifice
No it’s not a worthy sacrifice, let’s not compress the game even more. Everything above just needs to go up, an F-15A has no business at 12.7
There’s not a single 10.7 plane that will suffer cuz if u have countermesures and 2 braincells u can just dodge the missile with 2 or 3 flares.
I could even say it would be fair at 11.3.
Tell me how a F-16A with Su-30’s energy bleeding and 4 useless missiles can “compress” the game
It’s very possible that gatewidth IRCCM missiles are bugged right now, in the sense that their FoV doesn’t always get reduced. This could explain the difference of what you feel of the plane right now and how everyone else remembers it, as it’s sole purpose is magic 2 slinger. If they ‘fix’ gatewidth missiles it would be a huge buff for the mirage.
It’s not gatewidth missiles being bugged, but compression making a F-16A with only 2 good missiles, horrible FM and horrible/good RWR (depending if it’s F1C or F1CT) face an Eagle or even worse, a Flanker.
There is only like one or two, the chinese f104g and the f4f early, and this will be simply bc they have no flares
Calling magic 2 useless is crazy
You know how USSR mains call the R-60/60M useless because it follows flares easily? Right. But now imagine a catfish facing them.
It’s the same here, something mid at its br can be a short range deleter in downtiers
huh?
we were talking about Kfir C.7 and now u’re talking about Magic 2s?
R-60 sucks in all imaginable ways, even a 10.0 aircraft can dodge them easily except u use them in head-ons and the enemy aircraft doesn’t carry rockets (which many do since 9.3).
sure, an all-aspect missile with limited range can obviously delete an entire team with just 2 of them and basically ur most common 11.0 aircraft carrying at least 60CM.
probably nobody has the F-4F Early and if there was a player that actually plays that plane it would be as rare as seeing an E-100 in a 6.7 match.
the chinese F-104G…idk why it’s at 10.7, Japan has the exact same aircraft with 2 more missiles (and uses AIM-9P instead of J, but they’re pretty much the same) at 10.3.
also pretty sure nobody uses it too.
Please just read what I was replying to.
In a topic about the Mirage F1, it would be a good idea to not consider that people talk about the Kfir by default
i’m not the only one who misunderstood what the other one said, btw.

MF1 is not near of being a F-16A, nor even near of having the Su-30’s energy bleeding.
i misunderstood what foxtrot19673 was referring to, u misunderstood what i was referring to.
Average wt forum discussion lol
at least this isn’t the average WT battle chat, there u can find way worse things happening.