I would like to propose moving this aircraft to BR 10.0 in air realistic battles. Unlike the MiG-21MF and SMT and the F8U-2 at 10.3, it only has 2 missiles instead of 4. It does have countermeasures, but the Hunter F.58 at 10.0 also has them and practically the same 2 missiles. The Mirage IIIC, while it lacks countermeasures at 10.0, has 2 better missiles and a third radar-guided one. Choosing between a third missile or countermeasures for aircraft with practically the same flight characteristics on the same BR seems fair to me.
And which ine is faster?
The closest aircraft for comparison is the Mirage 5F at 10.0 with no CMs. Gaining CMs for a 0,3 increase seems fine to me
So the Mirage 5BA is completely comparable to the MiG-21MF and SMT, the F8U-2 and Mirage IIIS at 10.3?
For a ground attack aircraft, yeah, looks like it to me
Okay? And? gaijin sucks at aircraft designations, you have the SHars listed as strike aircraft even though they are fighters.
The Mirage 5s main job is dropping bombs onto a target. Hint why most of its loadout is A2G and not A2A.
If you directly compare it to the Mirage IIIS, then sure, you can justify it being a lower BR. THough that Mirage IIIS should probably be 10.7 alongside the Mirage IIIE.
But now compare it to the Mirage 5F, Su-17M2, F-105D, etc etc
10.3 is a rather solid place for what is a Supersonic with CMs. It sucks fighter supersonics in CM-less subsonics at 9.7, even worse when they have flares.
As for weapons. F-5C at 10.7 has AIm-9Es and not Aim-9Js and whilst the F-5C is probably still stronger. Aim-9Js at 10.3 on a supersonic with CMs is pretty good
What sense does it make to have the MiG-21MF/SMT and the F8U-2 at 10.3 then?
Those are all pretty close to matching the Mirage 5BAs performance so…
With twice the number of missiles.
Of weaker missiles.
You have the Jags at 10,7 with only 2x Aim-9s. Should they be 10,0 because some 10.3s have 4x missiles?
I definitely wouldn’t call the missiles on the MiG-21MF and SMT weak. They have shorter range, but higher G. Anyone sane who has played recently knows that the MiG-21SMT or MF at 10.3 absolutely dominates and they are very good even in a full uptier. I don’t know if there’s any aircraft in the entire game that would be this competitive even in a full uptier.
I think the BA is perfectly fine at 10.3… If anything the Mirage 5F and 3C should really be 10.3, but aren’t due to the lack of countermeasures.
The 5BA sits at a higher BR with worse missiles but countermeasures and it’s fine there.
Yep, I completely agree.
When I eventually get down the French tree. I’ll probably play the Mirage 5F over the 5BA simply because its the better mud mover in SB. But Id pick the 5BA over the GR1A any day of the week based upon stat card comparing
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Mirage 5 is a Mirage 3 with extended Air-ground ability,… don’t confuse yourself to the multirole thingy.
none,… MiG-21 MF/SMT should already be in the same BR as Mirage 3E, as the 3S and as many other too low BR fighters,… going down due to being used by many more players (overall stats dropping down because of that)
they’re completely counterpart of each others, alongside F-4E (which is much more multirole hence the 11.3)
Also lacks the centreline pylon :)
hence why it should be considered an attacker
They are really flare hungry.
You have to get within 1.5km to have a chance at a kill and even then it’s not a guarantee at all.
It’s fine where it is.
Main problem is both Mig21’s and J35XS should be 10.7.
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