Mirage 2000 Thread : Variants, performance, characteristics and sources

It does already. Think of the transmitted RWS HPRF waveform divided in 3 phases. On the first one, the frequency, f_{0}, of each pulse remains constant. On the second phase, the frequency of each pulse is increased slightly every single time, by the end of the phase the each pulse a frequency that is f_{0}+BW_{1}(bandwidth). On the third phase, the frequency can either slightly increase at a different rate or decrease. At the end of the phase, the pulse will have a different frequency. f_{0}+BW_{1}(bandwidth) \pm BW_{2}(bandwidth).
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Note that the horizontal axis is time and vertical is frequency.
If we get a return of a target coming towards us, its will have a doppler frequency, The return signal will just move up and down. The difference is just doppler.
If the target is at x range, it means that we will receive the pulses at x amount of time. Look how that at a fixed doppler, the return signal can only move horizontally. Here we see that the phases than have an increase in frequency, the \Delta f between the transmitted and received signal will have an extra change in frequency in addition to the doppler. With a bit of math you can deduce an equation to relate range and that extra change in frequency. Thus you measure range with the frequency modulated phases.

Notice as well how even if the received signal is shifted horizontally, the \Delta f of the first( constant frequency) doesn’t change. Thus you get doppler which is proportional to closure rate.

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The 5km thing is just the dev stuck up on how the N019(bad radar) works and therefore all radars have the same deficiencies and/or work the same.
For example N001/N019 are only able to lock on targets at 70% of their max detection range.
Previously all radar could lock up at 80% of the max detection range. Because the Mig 29 and SU27 have that, all western radars magically have this deficiency. Example, F15s APG-63 only have a ~10% loss
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and tornado F3 for example its 85-90%.

You also see it on low altitude flying, N001/N019 have a serious serious drop in performance when they fly under 3km and are looking at targets below the horizon. Close to a 50% in performance due to poor noise control.

If they were to introduce this what would happen, bingo! Everyone’s radars would be a shitty.
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Despite that not being the case. The original F16s APG66 has more range in the shorter range MPRF mode than the N019 in the HPRF( for long range detection) at low altitudes.

It’s a textbook " IF THE GREAT SOVIETS CAN’T, THEREFORE THE WEST CAN’T "

i have 2 things to say

  1. the new AB effects are very attractive especially with the 4K’s two M-53’s

  2. i have noticed the new DEFA, ADEN and AKAN sounds appear to literally just be slightly bassed up .30 cal sounds, this makes me very disappointed

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Yea, I got M2K D R1 a few days before the patch (I play Realistic Battles only). Before that, I thought it was a waste of time. After some matches it was quite ok. Not too good ground pounder. Not too good A2A, but manageable. After the patch, It’s hard as hell to do anything in it. Nerf to the radar (lack of TWS) makes it very hard to avoid groups of enemies. I guess RWR is a better radar (it gives you far more information) than real radar in game as it is. I’m close to RMV, but I start to wonder. Why it has 12.7 BR being blind (no actual working radar), no BVR missiles, and only 2x Magic 2? It doesn’t make sense at all. It should be the same BR as R1 (12.3).

The second thing is Mirage 2000D if it is a real plane described in the game, it’s the easiest kill in 21st century of all planes - A10 is better in battle awareness. If real radar doesn’t have TWS, how can this plane use Mica IR in beyond visual? If it can’t, then it’s the waste of French taxpayers money to upgrade this plane to a fantastic missile and use like 20% of its potential.

The radar works, but it is an air-to-ground radar.

I agree that the plane is too high in Br and that it deserves to be at least in 12.3, on the other hand to say that it’s the simplest kill of the games and quickly said, it’s still a Mirage 2000, the flight performance is still enough to come out victorious from the majority of dogfights.

I unlocked the 2000D RMV a few hours ago and if there’s one thing the plane suffers from, it’s the compression of the Br (playing uptier is really painful, especially stock) I’ve only played it a few times, this is my opinion so far

Regarding the capacity of the Mica, the missile is capable of being fired with the Datalink and since the 2000D RMV is equipped with the link 16 it could in theory (to be taken with a pinch of salt) fire them to their full potential this way.

EDIT: the biggest problem currently is the bug that affects many planes, countermeasures cannot be fired if the plane has bombs on board, that’s a real problem

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I mean, having the MICA IR without long range capabilities is better for self defense than throwing rocks once there are no more Magics in stock. Also the whole guiding MICAs using another aircraft’s radar come to mind.

I do agree that attackers have completely idiotic BRs for ARB tho, do remember that Gaijin left the Su-25SM3 at 12.3 when they separated BRs instead of lowering it to 11.3/.7 like it’s friends.
Best make a case for the RMV and R1 to drop to at least 12.0 since the 2000C are at 12.3.

It really is a great feeling to finally be able to nearly triple your reasonable amount of chaff and still have an ample supply of flares after months of those reports. Like you mentioned, if the 4K can finally get the Sycomor pod change it needs, and maybe some wishful brs get shuffled around; I think the all of the Mirages would be in the best positions they’ve ever been in.

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As far as I know, the seperate chaff launcher are considered large calibre chaff in game, so it really matters in a Fox 3 meta. I remember that the aircraft that are easily defeat MICA are the Soviets one since most of them had large calibre countermeasure dispenser.

112 Large Calibre Flare, and also 336 Large Calibre Chaff is insanely overpowered for a twin engined aircraft. Currently we only got an abundance of large calibre chaff in Tornado GR. 4, which we know it’s only matter for Ground RB and for decoying Pantsir.

Even in this current state, I think Mirage 2000 are defensible more than ever, you’re literally an Su-27 now with extra flare come in hand. As long you’re not launched under 10km, you can easily defeat a Fox 3 now thanks to its large calibre chaff.

For extra, I’ve also asked Wareta to bump up the report for PIDS Pod can carry missile for the F-16AM, sadly for now only passed for suggestion. It will be insane if they do, French Top Tier Aircraft are the most defensible, at least in terms of countermeasure. 240 countermeasures for F-15 are good, but it launches 2 countermeasures, so effectively you only had 120 countermeasures.

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Guys, I took 2000 5ei, such a beautiful and cool plane, you can’t imagine. I think it’s even better than the j10a. In sb, for sure, the indicator on the windshield is much better

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yeah the hud is really useful, even tells you the exact range of your locked target in the top right of it

ive never understood why the 2K’s HUD is like the only one with an actual ranging number. its what kinda keeps me away from other NATO jets, ive been spoiled by its HUD rofl

yeah lmao the only hud I prefer other than the m2k is the gripen & its purely for the fact it shows me where targets are when they go outside the hud

I can feel how much better the flight model is, the plane easily takes Mach 1.5 and above, the drag on the j10a is furious, I have never taken more than Mach 1.4. The maneuverability is also frenzied. There’s a lot of fuel.

What is the optimal distance to launch the mica?

I usually launch mine ~20-18km for a near guaranteed kill, no point in launching it from further as other ARH’s will likely get to you beforehand

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The mirage’s radar is frantic. He should have an aim120…

its even missing on the F-15E’s HUD, it bothers me alot due to it be some pretty important information to know.

dont the american jets get a little bar with arrows and you kinda have to guesstimate their range? its like that on the F16AM

By the way, I remember watching the wonderful movie “knights of the sky”, where the mirages had 2 fuel tanks under the wings, and in the game there was only one under the belly

yeah we have been waiting for our wing tanks on the M2K’s, not sure when we will get them though but the fuel efficiency is good enough on the M2K that max fuel + centerline tank is enough for any mission

im pretty sure thats the probability to kill marker