Mirage 2000 Thread : Variants, performance, characteristics and sources

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You are wrong on the subject of the AASM.
First : AASM can achieve the 70km+ range only when launched at high alts
Second : At low alts AASM have a 15km(Under 100m)-30km range
Third : Iirc AASM works with 2 impulses the first to make it fly and the second to dive on it’s target in order to lower interception chances.
Fourth : AASM is a smart bomb it can even be launched behing a mountain but gaijin won’t model that anyway.
Fifth : AASM would roughly be an equivalent to KH38 when deployed as gaijin don’t want to introducce LOAL capabilities
Sixth : TGP render distance being 20km AASM launch would be limited by TGP render distance because you can’t directly designate targets with the AASM seeker like you can do with Mavericks, KH38, PGM… You need either a TGP for the Laser/IIR version and Rafale OSF can be used for taregt designation with AASM IIR, and GPS version of AASM would just be an anti base weapon mostly as you can’t change the coordinates once launched.

AASM is a good weapon but due to how WarThunder works it wouldn’t be a broken weapon at least until the LOAL capabilities are added or TGP render distance increased. If introduced in ccurrent game state AASM would still be less broken than KH38.

In game the AASM would behave like a heavily upgraded AGM 123 Skipper imo. Going faster and further.

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The initial guidance is made by GPS, witch is not limited by the TGP, the AASM is primarily a GPS guided weapon

You cannot pick and choose GPS targets. Only way is to choose bombing bases. Also it has less TnT explosive than KH-38MT, so it is worse in that regard of killing bases in AIR RB.

You can shoot it from 30km approximately in the target area, wait for it to arrive close enough, enter the 20km area and guide it with your laser.

Even if it’s hard it is possible for GB

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Even then this usage would rely on player skill rathher than on the weapon being OP. Because even if you start by launching it GPS you have to get in the 20 km range at some point. This would rely on player timing to close in the distance and lock a guy. You don’t just make a designation in safe ranges and yeet the AASM. Also this would be possible only with the Laser AASM with IIR AASM as Gaijin won’t model LOAL for now you’ll have to launch it in the 20km area anyway. Except if it gets exceptionnal levels of zooming via the seeker aiming if AASM IIR ever gets aiming from the seeker itself.

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Of course, doing this would only be possible with training, however it is not impossible (it’s even rather easy in realism, the fact of being able to see where your weapon is continuously allows you to estimate precisely when it arrives).

Another tactic would be to just circle the battlefield at a distance of 20km and at high altitude, this would allow to fire the AASM (the AASM being able to hit targets at long distances even when firing at high angles) while remaining protected from the Pantsirs (however vulnerable to enemy aircraft)

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Yeah but then again it implies tactics, which is what i tried to point to that guy saying AASM would be OP. The effectiveness of AASM would rely on the ability of the player to use his brain and his ability to maintain situationnal awarness while on the other hand a weapon like KH38 can be used totally braindead because the best SAM Russia can face is the Ito with the 12km range VT1s while western countries have to deal with the 20km Pantsir missile. If somehow France got a vehicle able to use the 15km VT1mk3 this would be a bit different as Russian would also have to take more risks to fire a KH38 but it’d still be easier to use than an AASM.

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Su-34 can do this with KH-38MT.

The Su34 would be forced to orient itself towards the target to aim and fire the Kh38 due to the limitations of the aiming pod. Additionally, the Kh38 has a fire clearance zone that is truly centered forward. The AASM can be fired at 90 degrees to the side without problem because the French aiming pods allow it and in addition the weapon can be fired towards any direction, whether in front, to the side or behind

The only weapons currently in play that can do this kind of shooting at 90 degrees from the plane’s heading are planes with JDAMs or with Chinese GPS bombs. However, these weapons have neither the range nor the precision/guidance of the AASM

I imagine that the GBU-39 and Gromm2 will be able to hit targets perpendicular to their aircraft but they will again have neither the range nor the precision of the AASM.

EDIT : I just tried, you can’t hit a target 90 degrees from your plane with a JDAM, the maximum is about 60 or 70 degrees

if there is a dm feature on this site can you send me that video of the hammer firing please and thank you :)

Su-34 can use Gen 2 thermals on the onboard KH-38MT which have 55 degree gimbal limit and sufficient agility at max off bore launch 14 - 20 km (14 km being the lock range of enemy SAM). I will do this after update. Circling and firing KH-38MT from side if I don’t get city map.

The dev server is reopening again, probably for the third time. Is there any update regarding Mirage 2000 actual countermeasure count?

i think so ? lol i’m too dumb and sleepy to be sure.

The chaff went from 48 to 112 but no idea if everything is correct tho.

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Otherwise for mirage 4k still no change and mirage 2000 rmv got his icon and the pgm ir i’m not sure it was added when dev server was still open.
Still only magic 2 as missile.

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and now new radar for it too :

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Wow that’s nice! This surely will increase the survivability of C-S5/-5F in the high altitude.

This is correct for S5. 5F and 5EI still have incorrect CM Counts. They are supposed to have a few more normal countermeasures; will be fixed in a Dev Server update hopefully.

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yeah i stopped using the mirage 2000 5f it was unplayable with such low amount of countermeasures for me, now it’s clearly ok

A little bit off topic, but I wish F-16AM also got its HMD fixed and can carry another missile in its MAW Pods. There’s already someone reporting it, but there’s no update regarding it will be implemented or not.