Mirage 2000 Thread : Variants, performance, characteristics and sources

It’s one of those things that are purposefully wrong for the sake of balance, like the Magic 2 not having IRCCM back in the days.
If the situation was reversed and you were to use the picture that you received back as proof that the Mirage can carry 8 missiles, you’d get told that you need a picture showing a plane with both the wings and fuselage stations equipped with missiles.

even with the current IRCCM is still wrong, most IFOV IRCCM-capable missile rn is “Equalized” with R-73 IRCCM instead of having actual unique IFOV.

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Taking it as a positive this means there’s a chance the Rafale will be able to override the software limitation preventing 4 Meteor + 4 MICA (iirc its that way around??).

Old screenshots show who responded to what, but the purpose was to stop people from harassing the tech mods. It’s not their fault the reports didn’t fall into certain rules or were denied by people higher than them. Now they report that information back to you and receive backlash.

The only thing we can be upset about is that Gaijin makes developer decisions but then comes up with excuses instead of admitting it was for balance or other reasons.

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Welp, if Gaijin consider Rafale need the same treatment as Mirage 2000 to fit with their meta, they would do it.

But I don’t think so as long as like MiG-29 Early still receive its ahistorical R-27ER and (ironically) capable of cueing Radar Missile via HMD despite the early MiG-29 (also Su-27 early) don’t have that capabilities and can only cueing IR Missile. Which more ironically again, that F-16AM in the Benelux Subtech Tree actually got this treatment.

But also, my guess is that when the future meta is coming, they (probably) could simply retroactively remove those ahistorical loadouts just like how they give Kurnass 2000 an AIM-7F, and when Python 3 arrives, they simply remove it for “Historical Reason”.

Yeah, they could’ve just admitted that Mirage 2000 and other aircraft that gets ahistorical loadout is for balance purpose.

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I don’t think the magic 2 issue is a-historical by any means.

Does Mirage 2000 capable of theoritically carry 6 MICA + 2 Magic II? I’m really curious.

The computer of the mirage can only handle up to 6 missiles.
It’s also the same for the rafale, up to the F4 standard, the plane was limited in its amount of A2A missiles because dassault needs to « open » the pylons for each missiles in combination with the rest of the loadouts, and for the longest time it was limited to 6-8 missiles, until later version saw the « opening » of said pylons

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Absolutely, in fact it could carry 8x MICA with any number of EM or IR models afaik.

if that would be the case, then i dont agree with it one bit.

one thing is having a underperforming missile, and second is having a imaginary loadout (im looking at you m2k5f) for “balancing purposes”

if gaijin would want to add a early variants of something like rafale, it would be less capable then m2k5f, due to the mirage having a2g weaponary, even tho french never used those on their 5f’s

but it is what it is i guess, we are just on the receiving end :imdead:

I don’t agree with it either, but then again we’re talking about Gaijin.
They added the Mirage F-1C far too late for it to be decent due to powercreep so they had to withhold capability from the Magic 2 in order to not cause more powercreep. This was most likely fully intentional, same as the fictional 2000-5F air to ground loadouts.

Sure they could have added an early Rafale, and a modernised 2000D, but it was far more efficient to roll both roles into the 2000-5F.

It do is what it is…

If this leak becomes true (its from gszabi, so its plausible, but not certain.) i will bust a nut
i love 2000D RMV, and it will finally bring the AASM hammer prob.
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With many strike aircraft coming to the next patch (especially aircraft like Tornado that can tons of chaff more than BOZ Pod), it would be logical to make Mirage 2000C/-5F to receieve its historical chaff countermeasure count.

I hope they also model the MAWS for the Mirage 2000 for currently is still lacking.

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Hopefully MICA-IR and AASM will be added, but probably only so we can use CC422 gunpods and Damocles TGP

So it should be compatible with the talios pod (the last one of the rafale) and hopefully will be given it’s 2 mica ir because there is only two missiles from what i understood, it would be quite weak but extremely pleasant for cas since the quality of the pod would be the best in the game and by far ?, except if gaijin do the same than with the 2k5f with it’s two extra magic 2 for no reason.

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Zero chance of the MICA IR getting added

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I’m sure this will age well

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I kind of hope for ARMAT with the delayed fuse for the new 2000D, if possible

For now, MICA IR is out of my books. What I can tell is that the current plans is to give a Frankenstein Murage 2000D RMV with MICA EM.
The problem is that the D in game does not use the correct radar (antilope 5) but the RDI from the 2000 C instead.
The RMV, used the Antilope 50.
The antilope series are air to ground radars with limited air to air capabilities, that absolutely can’t guide MICA EM.
However, considering the D variant using the wrong radar, and how busted the MICA IR would be at this current state of the game, it’s very likely will get MICA EM and call it a day

I hope they add the SCORPION HMCS