Mirage 2000 Thread : Variants, performance, characteristics and sources

Pre-flaring is definitly much more enjoyable as is than otherwise. Its also decently skillful, requiring knowledge and understanding of missile WEZ’, while also having the downside of requiring use of CM’s not directly wasting a missile, effeftively being a tradeoff in CM’s for positionning.

I think if they wanna nerf pre-flaring, they should make more complex flares, such as properly modelling BOL.

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Preflaring will still remain the best tactic, just that it won’t be as effective as it is now. I mean, this is an incremental step up from having Python 4’s seeker introduced, so it is best that they implement this.

For the past year or so, they’ve been buffing the Magic 2 incrementally every patch by implementing reports that have the least impact. There’s only a few reports left now, take a guess which one they’ll do next:

  • Combined maneuverability for 50G (also means they’ll have to buff AIM-54 Phoenix, AIM-120, AAM-4, and other missiles).

  • FoV reduction from 0.75 to 0.43

  • FoV reduction occurs before launch, making pre-flaring more difficult.

  • Seeker shut-off introduction (Combination of seeker shutoff + fov reduction)

Considering these options, I think it’s a no-brainer that allowing for FoV reduction to occur before launch would be a small incremental buff while simultaneously setting the stage for other missiles to be introduced such as Python 4, because we never stop progressing missile technology.

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Are there any reports in about the mirage 2000s hms display? especially since the gripens are getting the f16s hmd i feel like that info is quite valuable in sim

None that i can see, it’d be worth putting one out their so we can get rid of the ugly circle they give as a placeholder HMD in cockpit view.

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Really hope they give france a top tier premium thats actually good/interesting soon… I dont see anything worth getting to grind the french air tree atm, and theres nothing interesting in the french tree until the M2K’s in the first place. I was hoping the M4K would be it, since it fits perfectly, but it went to the TT instead

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Would love to see maybe a Indian Mirage-2000 as a Squad/Premium but im unsure what BR they would be as im kinda unfamiliar if they were much different from French M2Ks

Something like that, i just dont really wanna have to buy the stupid F-1C during the next sale and rtb every 5 minutes cuz it only has 2 useable missiles

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I guess early aircraft premium pre-order pack would be 12.0 or 12.3 BR in rank 8 for france and coming to third major update or winter major update

I’m waiting new Mirage 2000D with 3rd generation targeting pod and domestic french GPS/INS precision-guided munition

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I don’t have enough info to make a report, but if someone else does it would be appreciated

Im waiting for all the other nations to get a TGP of the same era as Damocles. The fact France gets a TGP thats 10+ years newer than everyone else is pretty obnoxious, particularly when those other nations jets most definitely have and carried comparable TGP’s

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Depends which particular Litening variant we are talking about.

Litening II is from 1999, Litening G4 began deliveries to the USAF in 2008, Damocles entered service with the French in 2009. France LITERALLY has 10 years advantage over other nations in-game despite there not being any reason for them to have such an advantage.

I think we have some Litening III in game even.
Assuming the other pods are actually less capable in game.
Isn’t it ATLIS-II on M2K-D as we have it in game currently, with only the -5F with DAMOCLES?

The F-16’s and Gripens that have pods have all been locked to Litening II in-game. None of the jets that could have better TGP’s in NATO TT’s have better ones, most of them have worse ones actually, like TIALD.
Top TGP:
USA → Litening II (1999, Gen 2)
GER → Litening II (1999, Gen 2)
RU → Mercury (N/A)
UK → Litening II (1999, Gen 2)
FR → Damocles (2009, Gen 3)
SWE → Litening II (1999, Gen 2)
CN → K/ADC03A (~2005, Gen 2+)
ISR → Litening II (1999, Gen 2)
ITA → Litening II (1999, Gen 2)
JP → N/A

France is the clear frontrunner in TGP quality, and there’s literally no reason for it. They just got a better pod for no reason.

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lack of a bad pod= using a good pod

I don’t see how TGP are that much of an issue for different aircrafts,…
Most people have the exact same Litening II, apart France and China.

The Damocles Pod might be better, yet there is no better weaponnary allowing it to use Damocles up to it’s full potential.

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Thats wrong tho, the 2000D has a worse pod than the 2000-5F. Theres literally no good reason for the 5F to have the Damocles atm.

There are many instances were some nation has or had something better than the others in game.

Here France has a slight advantage at the moment regarding the quality of the picture.
Perhaps even regarding magnification and field of view, I’m not certain on that but it is not a big issue as far as I’m aware.

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Its a pretty massive advantage, particularly in sim, and its unnecessary. Its also been going on for a long time, at this point being a little over a year of France having by far the best TGP in-game. It was actually compounded by the fact that the Litening II was bugged since it was added, and displayed thermals as gen 1 instead of gen 2.

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I mean now you have to trade a mica to use it if we are talking about sim