They will probably add a heavily nerfed version of the mica em to the 5F and call it a day lol
Where?
@DCBY12 @vizender It was some month ago, a discord message from @Smin1080p then he reclarify later
(@Macekeeks i just refind the post, my fault i probably misinterpreted)
The original message could be either interpret as:
- “MICA is not coming, at the moment, everyone is fine with the current meta with fox 1, and the only fox 3 (aim154) is not breaking the balance”
or as - "MICA is not coming in the “first batch” of fox 3 because MICA is too advanced compared to the early version of fox 3 (aka 120A-120B, and R-27A/R27EA )
One one reason i prefer to said “could” not appear, as it’s not sure, and things can be change. Like the introduction of Mirage 3C and Magic 1
Since i rechecked it “seem” to be the first option, as he mention R-27er and not other fox 3.
But at the same time, one of the devblog (the J-8 if iirc), said that PL-12 (fox 3)will come for sure with others nations fox 3, but never said “all nation fox 3”
So it would interressing to know “how far” Mica is considered as “advanced” in the devs mind. Even compared to early version of fox 3
Original source:
reclarify @Smin1080p :
DirectSupport :
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So we have the same message in mind :). I took it as the first option personally, because I reckon me might see AIM120C directly considering the set of vehicles we already have in game
I guess gaijin could add MICA EM with Rafale M F1 to the last major update in december
MICA EM range same R-77 but better maneuverability
I hope gaijin add new Mirage 2000D with Damocles targeting pod and new precision-guided munition (PGM) with INS/GPS guidance and located after Mirage 2000D-R1 this year
This isn’t true at all.
It’s quite possible they introduce the AIM-120C-5 first so that they are competitive with R-77, R-27ER.
Everyone is severely over-analyzing what Smin said. It doesn’t mean anything at all.
We won’t really have anything to show it is “nerfed” if they add it that way regardless. Same goes for all FOX-3s. Entering a realm of extrapolated data only.
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A few minor nations would get screwed due to that
That is already the case with the existence of the R-27ER.
Interpretation on channel losses maybe.
Yeah but some other nation didn’t use the AIM120C or didn’t use till fighters that won’t be in game for a long while F4 ICE and Sea Harrier FA2 didn’t use the C and France didn’t use the AMRAAM
Germany has a MiG-29 with R-27ER and R-73
Britain has the Gripen
France uses MICA
There are no issues.
There is one: french bashing ^^"
Magic-2 is still not fixed on this date,…
(EDIT : Nothing is currently reportable in this Post,…)
I don’t think their gonna give the UK Gripen AMRAAMS as it would leave it without a 12.3
Super Étendard → modelized subpar to what it should for pseudo balance reasons
Leclerc AZUR → still no newer rounds, despite existing APFSDS IRL
AMX-10P/M → good additions overall, still:
P variant → at 5.3 make it fighting Tanks mostly able to defend themselves easily from the Gun low penetration abilities + elevation -5/+50° makes it hardly able to be dedicated in sub-SPAA roles.
M variant → maybe the most balanced addition for France this year at 7.3 it is just at the BR where the Gun and Ammunition (ATGM/HE rounds only) are useful.
It have good speed in front march, and is able to be in good sniping position early on.
Yet it still have heavy reload time.
A “complete” naval tree → well yeah but still kinda limited today, if being honest (yet i can understand than Developping Ships is longer than Aircrafts/Tanks)
Mirage 4000 is a good addition → no one will ever deny that.
Mirage 2000-5F → the Mirage that was mixed out of a UAE Mirage 2000-9 and a Mirage 2000C-S5, without the main weapon that make the difference with Other Mirage 2000’s,…
And still have to grind for SUPER 530 F ,… which were OUT OF SERVICE at the time of introduction,…
HMD also is somewhat useless, let’s be honest, since the Magic-2 ain’t fixed yet (dual-plane steering for a peak Maneuvrabilty of 50G when having high energy state → basically why the use of HMD was required by French Armée de l’Air,…)
Until we see the Magic-2 being fixed, or MICA-IR,… The HMD will remain useless, unlike the Su-27/MiG-29 using a 50G R-73 with deadly rates.
And i still keep in my mind the values of Magic-2’s IRCCM being Copy-pasted from R-73 because “no reason invoked here”, while the report was explicitly saying that the IRCCM was closer to the 9M than R-73.
BUT IN THE END → i’m not saying that Gaijin is french bashing in Number of Vehicules,…
since i started, i’m speaking of the QUALITY of such vehicules, kinda dooble standards to see the quality of some vehicules in comparison to the other.
AAM-3? F-15J?
Some great Battleships?
Gripen? (Currently considered best “NATO” aircraft overall)
→ i’m not sure about the fact those nations are overlooked,… Japan is sadly having a Hard time since WWII stuff is pretty complete.
they dont have 12.0 either and noone cares. It cant really carry many missiles and if fox3 becomes next meta, it can sit at 12.3 fine with capability to carry only 4 amraams anyway. I would rather see iris-t instead of amraam though :D
Why would it remain at 12,3 with AMRAAMs and yeah Britain doesn’t have a 12.0 so if the Gripen is moved up to 12.7 or most likely 13 their would be a bigger gap in the tree
Because compared to everything else, it can carry like 50% of their amraam payload.
Let’s be real, su27, f15, Mirage 4000, F16C, MIG29SMT/G, Mirage 2000 5F and Gripen should be 12.7 already. But yeah, otherwise, the Gripen should sit at a lower BR than F15 and SU27 if AMRAAMS are added