We already know nothing in 12.0 Br should be in that Br as It is but the mirage 2ks are literaly the worst planes in that br facing f18s with 10 missiles with less than 40 flares diabolical and even gonna talk about uptiers that are almost unplayable for the 2ks magic 2 are only good thing in this plane but even the magics are doing something because of the tange they have i played with cs4 for a lot of times and its one for the best plane i ever touched in 12.0 for sim matchs but for rb this thing vant even use his super530 as they should be used without getting a aim54 our a aim7p our even a r27 in my face before the missele reach the target in high alt.
Mirage needs some changes in br our missiles would be alot better using in 11.7 with only magics our less powerfull radar missiles changes to it down below.
-change to 12.0 with full mods
-change to 11.7 with 2 magic 2s
-add the matra Éclair countermeasure pod for more flares and chaffs our the SPIRALE system
This changes would make the mirage 2ks atleast usable in uptiers and more playable in their tiers
The issue is they are very strong airframes with limited missile counts.
If you compare to the Mirage F1s with average FMs and the same weapons at 12.0 or Tonka Gr4/SLE at 12.3 with way worse FM and 2x IRCCM, then 12.3 could be argued as too low for them. I’m not, but I don’t see them going down to 12.0 anytime soon, let alone 11.7
If the problem is the irccm look for other side they are buffing the r73 in 11.7 that is already hard to deal with in that br and i agreed that mirage is op to dogfight but dont hold 2 many gs even with max spaded crew atleast more countermeasure would solve the problem for its br
Which mirage 2000s are you talking about?
The cs4 and cs5 both are the same plane
The s5 already has the eclair pods they arent exactly the same
Same in br and it have problem with uptiers and f18 spam
buddy the CS5 is singlehandedly the strongest defensive plane of 12.3, I played that thing fine when it faced su-30s before decompression.
Which F-18 with 10 missiles can fight 12.3 rn?
Uh
Lol no
It really isn’t hard to fight R-73
Fov gating irccm is godawful rn
for some reason the mirage 2000d series are at br 12.3 and 12.7 with only magic 2s with you having to research a gun pod
Personally I’m having a blast with Mirage 2000C S5 after the BR changes, its crazy fun. Sure 4 missiles is not much and I’d gladly take more but 530D’s with right initial speed are almost guaranteed kills, while Magic 2’s are obviously amazing as always and then you got the airframe itself and RWR/MAWS combo.
The worst opponents you can find in uptiers are 3rd gen platforms with FOX-3 missiles which are barely an issue due to your incredible flight model.
Not really the same situation you have way more countermeasures with the s5, which makes it far easier to face things like the f18 and uptiers
Are you talking about the attacker versions of the 2000? Bevause the cs5 is absolutely amazing rn and has enough CM to play even in uptiers.